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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tom Servo" data-source="post: 5835894" data-attributes="member: 94610">A bit off topic, but in my home games we also gave clerics pretty clear codes of conduct and bits of dogma they had to follow.  Sort of like a paladin's code.  This also added to the flavor of clerics.I once played a cleric of life that could never refuse a request for healing.  The DM played it masterfully, never abusing it.  The first time he tugged this string was during a fight with a clever and religiously knowledgeable BBEG.  I'll never forget the faces of those around the table when mid-fight the BBEG looked at my character and politely asked for healing...and then I did it.I also really enjoyed the fact that different priest had access to different spells.  (Different spheres and major/minor access.)  You've got a problem with failing crops?  You don't go to a war-priest.Anyways, for me the more flavor the better.  Balance comes second.  Some orders of priests just aren't cut out for the adventuring life, I'm okay with that.I know it is way too much to ask of 5e, but in my ideal version the class of priest/cleric would be a whole range of very distinctive subclasses.  Subclasses with different spell access, different granted powers, different skills and skill points, different weapon and armor access, different thac0/BaB/whatever, etc, etc.  A guy can dream though.</blockquote>