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2e, the most lethal edition?
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<blockquote data-quote="the Jester" data-source="post: 7636247" data-attributes="member: 1210"><p>Interesting assertion! Let's see...</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So far so good...</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Hold on a sec. </p><p></p><p>I'm at my girlfriend's house so I don't have my early-edition material handy, but I don't think that's all correct. </p><p></p><p>First of all, I'm pretty sure that default ability score generation was 3d6 in order. There were additional options for it in the DMG, and I think 4d6 drop 1 arrange to taste was one of those. </p><p></p><p>Second, death at -10 was an optional rule in the DMG. By default, you were dead at 0. I had multiple 1e pcs die at 0 because of this.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Ah, yes, death by massive damage! </p><p></p><p>That was an optional rule in the 1e DMG, too, IIRC- but I believe that 2e planted it firmly in default rules territory. </p><p></p><p>Well, despite my quibbling about 1e rules, making massive damage a core rule alone puts 2e above 1e in lethality. Combine that with the powering up of dragons, giants, and fiends, and I have to agree with your evaluation. Which really surprises me- I never think of 2e as being extra deadly. But there you have it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="the Jester, post: 7636247, member: 1210"] Interesting assertion! Let's see... So far so good... Hold on a sec. I'm at my girlfriend's house so I don't have my early-edition material handy, but I don't think that's all correct. First of all, I'm pretty sure that default ability score generation was 3d6 in order. There were additional options for it in the DMG, and I think 4d6 drop 1 arrange to taste was one of those. Second, death at -10 was an optional rule in the DMG. By default, you were dead at 0. I had multiple 1e pcs die at 0 because of this. Ah, yes, death by massive damage! That was an optional rule in the 1e DMG, too, IIRC- but I believe that 2e planted it firmly in default rules territory. Well, despite my quibbling about 1e rules, making massive damage a core rule alone puts 2e above 1e in lethality. Combine that with the powering up of dragons, giants, and fiends, and I have to agree with your evaluation. Which really surprises me- I never think of 2e as being extra deadly. But there you have it. [/QUOTE]
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