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<blockquote data-quote="Voadam" data-source="post: 9633942" data-attributes="member: 2209">Two separate possibly overlapping and stacking abilities?For a while I have thought OSR thieves should be designed to balance as variant light armor fighters instead of as variant wizards since thief skills, sword usage, tough to pull off backstab, and the slight bump in leather armor AC and in AD&amp;D HD are nowhere near worth artillery fireballs.Fighter HD, THACO, and xp.Give them backstab as flavor text for automatic +4 to hit and multiplied damage for sneaky fighting and not make it mechanically tough to pull off.Being a vulnerable striker light armor fighter with one heavy hitting attack balances well against front line tank fighters with multiple attacks and front line tank clerics with great AC but slightly lesser hp, THAC0, and weapon choices but good clerical magic. It seems a balanced option menu to me and fits the master duelist Gray Mouser ultra competent swordsman archetype.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Voadam, post: 9633942, member: 2209"] Two separate possibly overlapping and stacking abilities? For a while I have thought OSR thieves should be designed to balance as variant light armor fighters instead of as variant wizards since thief skills, sword usage, tough to pull off backstab, and the slight bump in leather armor AC and in AD&D HD are nowhere near worth artillery fireballs. Fighter HD, THACO, and xp. Give them backstab as flavor text for automatic +4 to hit and multiplied damage for sneaky fighting and not make it mechanically tough to pull off. Being a vulnerable striker light armor fighter with one heavy hitting attack balances well against front line tank fighters with multiple attacks and front line tank clerics with great AC but slightly lesser hp, THAC0, and weapon choices but good clerical magic. It seems a balanced option menu to me and fits the master duelist Gray Mouser ultra competent swordsman archetype. [/QUOTE]

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