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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 4003904" data-attributes="member: 22779">No, Ford isn't.&nbsp; Cars originated in Europe about thirty years before we saw a Model T.I wasn't ignoring your point, just questioning your perspective of history.&nbsp; Gygax most certainly did not leave D&amp;D because of complexity.&nbsp; Heck, 1e is FAR MORE complex than 2e.&nbsp; While you cannot make everyone happy, you can make as many people happy as possible.&nbsp; The mistake you make here is that by pointing out the shortcomings in a given edition, that means that we hate a given edition.&nbsp; I don't hate any edition.&nbsp; I wouldn't play 1e again, but, that's because I like 3e much better.&nbsp; Same goes for 2e.&nbsp; IMO, 3e does certain things better than 2e did and increases my overall enjoyment of the game.&nbsp; 2e did the same for me than 1e.However, that doesn't mean that any edition is perfect.&nbsp; I have no interest in going to something like C&amp;C because it quite simply doesn't appeal to me.&nbsp; I don't feel that C&amp;C is a &quot;simpler&quot; version of 3e.&nbsp; True 20 is.&nbsp; C&amp;C feels like 3e with governors on the engine.&nbsp; I don't like it.&nbsp; That's not saying its bad, just that it's not for me.Then again, I've long become comfortable with the idea that I play D&amp;D.&nbsp; I'm not trying to play a fantasy emulator or genre emulator using D&amp;D mechanics.&nbsp; I play D&amp;D to play that game, not to try to use that game to recreate my favorite fiction or movie.&nbsp; So, concepts like, &quot;Well, I can't do Frodo in D&amp;D&quot; don't bother me in the slightest.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 4003904, member: 22779"] No, Ford isn't. Cars originated in Europe about thirty years before we saw a Model T. I wasn't ignoring your point, just questioning your perspective of history. Gygax most certainly did not leave D&D because of complexity. Heck, 1e is FAR MORE complex than 2e. While you cannot make everyone happy, you can make as many people happy as possible. The mistake you make here is that by pointing out the shortcomings in a given edition, that means that we hate a given edition. I don't hate any edition. I wouldn't play 1e again, but, that's because I like 3e much better. Same goes for 2e. IMO, 3e does certain things better than 2e did and increases my overall enjoyment of the game. 2e did the same for me than 1e. However, that doesn't mean that any edition is perfect. I have no interest in going to something like C&C because it quite simply doesn't appeal to me. I don't feel that C&C is a "simpler" version of 3e. True 20 is. C&C feels like 3e with governors on the engine. I don't like it. That's not saying its bad, just that it's not for me. Then again, I've long become comfortable with the idea that I play D&D. I'm not trying to play a fantasy emulator or genre emulator using D&D mechanics. I play D&D to play that game, not to try to use that game to recreate my favorite fiction or movie. So, concepts like, "Well, I can't do Frodo in D&D" don't bother me in the slightest. [/QUOTE]

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