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<blockquote data-quote="prosfilaes" data-source="post: 4005630" data-attributes="member: 40166"><p>According to one site, there's probably less than 50 copies existing of ST1, and certainly no more than 600 copies ever printed. It's a collector's item, not a module that people buy to run. The Dragon Magazine PDFs are impossible to reprint as is; they had to settle some problems with KoDT people since they explicitly didn't have the rights to reproduce some of the cartoons they did, and I believe under current law, they'd have to negotiate with almost every person who ever wrote an article for Dragon for rights to reprint it. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>They may be players, but they will buy things with their collector hat on they would never do with their player hat on. </p><p></p><p>For one example, <a href="http://www.acaeum.com/ddindexes/modpages/st.html" target="_blank">the person who paid $2500 for ST1</a> bought it to complete a collection. He did not buy it to play it, and there's no way to tell whether he would have bought it to play at any price. For another example, GURPS Bili the Axe: Up Harzburk now sells for $37. Do you really think people are paying $37 for a solo adventure that was recalled? I may not have paid that much, but I </p><p>know I didn't buy it to play with.</p><p></p><p>And again, this is meaningless. Sean Punch, who has reprinted books for Steve Jackson Games because of what they were selling used, has said that's a mistake; that a book is selling for high prices on EBay doesn't mean that it will sell well if reprinted. Unless we have someone else who worked for a gaming company in such a position saying something else, that's as informed a source as we're going to get.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>They're the ones who have the numbers on how much the PDFs are selling, and how much it would cost to PoD these books. At a certain point, backseat driving is just annoying; you just don't know as much as they do.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, you've said that. However, I think having multiple Player Handbooks for sale is more like having multiple editions of the Lord of Rings, except that the reader not only has to have an edition of the Hobbit that matches his edition of the Lord of the Rings, to get full use out of the books, he also has to have the same editions of the Hobbit and the Lord of the Rings as his friends...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="prosfilaes, post: 4005630, member: 40166"] According to one site, there's probably less than 50 copies existing of ST1, and certainly no more than 600 copies ever printed. It's a collector's item, not a module that people buy to run. The Dragon Magazine PDFs are impossible to reprint as is; they had to settle some problems with KoDT people since they explicitly didn't have the rights to reproduce some of the cartoons they did, and I believe under current law, they'd have to negotiate with almost every person who ever wrote an article for Dragon for rights to reprint it. They may be players, but they will buy things with their collector hat on they would never do with their player hat on. For one example, [url=http://www.acaeum.com/ddindexes/modpages/st.html]the person who paid $2500 for ST1[/url] bought it to complete a collection. He did not buy it to play it, and there's no way to tell whether he would have bought it to play at any price. For another example, GURPS Bili the Axe: Up Harzburk now sells for $37. Do you really think people are paying $37 for a solo adventure that was recalled? I may not have paid that much, but I know I didn't buy it to play with. And again, this is meaningless. Sean Punch, who has reprinted books for Steve Jackson Games because of what they were selling used, has said that's a mistake; that a book is selling for high prices on EBay doesn't mean that it will sell well if reprinted. Unless we have someone else who worked for a gaming company in such a position saying something else, that's as informed a source as we're going to get. They're the ones who have the numbers on how much the PDFs are selling, and how much it would cost to PoD these books. At a certain point, backseat driving is just annoying; you just don't know as much as they do. Yes, you've said that. However, I think having multiple Player Handbooks for sale is more like having multiple editions of the Lord of Rings, except that the reader not only has to have an edition of the Hobbit that matches his edition of the Lord of the Rings, to get full use out of the books, he also has to have the same editions of the Hobbit and the Lord of the Rings as his friends... [/QUOTE]
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