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Message: <blockquote data-quote="FANGO" data-source="post: 163475" data-attributes="member: 2368">From the SRD:* Suggestion: A bard with 9 or more ranks in Perform can make a suggestion (as the spell) to a creature that he has already fascinated (see above). The suggestion doesn't count against the bard's dailylimit on bardic music performances (one per day per level), but the fascination does. A Will saving throw (DC 13 + the bard's Charisma modifier) negates the effect. Suggestion is a spell-like,mind-affecting charm ability. Charisma does indeed get added to the music ability.You would still, however, find it useful to have suggestion as a spell, since you can cast it right away instead of having to fascinate first, and you also don't necessarily need to have an instrument out when casting the spell either (depending on how you play your bard or how your DM rules this).edit...another note:  If your bard is any good at all, then there should be almost no way that an enemy can pass the save for fascinate, as that is based on your perform skill, and it's ludicrously easy to get huge scores in skills.  So unless you're against someone that would easily make the will save for suggestion anyway, or if you happen to roll extremely badly and they roll extremely well (in which case they still might not save), the fascinate save is nothing to worry about.</blockquote>