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Message: <blockquote data-quote="FrogReaver" data-source="post: 9781789" data-attributes="member: 6795602">Woot!!! There it is!  My bad.So yes.  IMO Ranger is almost certainly the best level 2 class. EDIT: Take this back, it's warlock, but ranger is #2 IMO.Something like archery style, heavy crossbow, push mastery and entangle for combat.  Goodberries from the night before. Well for quite a few enemies, especially lower CR enemies, retrained is complete action denial as well.That and entangle is actually a large enough aoe to hit multiple targets consistently, and the difficult terrain with the size is great.I don’t disagree that the sleep status effect is a bit better when enemies don’t shake their allies awake.  But it’s such a smaller aoe and doesn’t come with the always applicable difficult terrain regardless of save.The bigger problem with sleep is that shaking allies awake can turn it from a strong effect to a weak one, just by NPC behavior.The creatures you face at level 1 and 2 will often die to a hit from a damage spell, or drop to near dead.Either of those outcomes seem better than a control spell that most likely has 1 target.You said 50/50 chance but then 1 out of 3. I’m a bit confused here.I don’t think any other caster features at level 1 and 2 really compare. Cantrips sure. Rituals can be pretty hit and miss IME.When I talk about casters I don’t include warlock. He’s just too different.  He is a caster but not what is generally meant by caster in discussions which is meant as a shorthand for neo-vancian style casters.</blockquote>

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