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<blockquote data-quote="DarkMaster" data-source="post: 1739092" data-attributes="member: 16362"><p>I guess we have a different definition of brainwashed, I personally consider that US special troops are brainwashed and brutal soldier(and I think that's what we need to protect north america interest adequatly).</p><p>I think you need to be brainwashed to be a very effective soldier. And because of that you rarely see a soldier goes again the chain of command. Take those US soldier who massacred Vietnamese villages, not a lot of them went against their officers or team mates. I think that in the heat of the battle some men completly lose it. I would not prevent myself from playing a US GI in vietnam because some massacred vietnamese villages. I hope my GM would focus on something more interesting than that.</p><p></p><p>If they were not brainwashed how can you explain that the SS -Waffen Charlemagne defend Berlin until the whole unit was killed (why would a French care about the Faith of Berlin, especially when France is already liberated)edit: forgot that they were fighting the Russians, which at the time were worse for their war prisonner than the german.</p><p></p><p>Hitler Youth for me is similar to the scout or cadet, except that the concept taught were completly crazy. But the idea was the same.</p><p></p><p>I personally think, like you mention, that the whole problem around the German is that they are still survivor and victim of this war alive. Maybe my son will play a German as I play a Roman centurion without having to bother about all the attrocities commited by his empire and just enjoy a different perspective, focusing on the strategic and romantised history, without hurting anybodies feeling.</p><p></p><p>Please notes: that I am not a pro-nazi, anti jew or any bull<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> like that, I am just reflecting on a situation and do not approve the genocide like I don't approve any gratuitous and target violence against any group no more no less.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DarkMaster, post: 1739092, member: 16362"] I guess we have a different definition of brainwashed, I personally consider that US special troops are brainwashed and brutal soldier(and I think that's what we need to protect north america interest adequatly). I think you need to be brainwashed to be a very effective soldier. And because of that you rarely see a soldier goes again the chain of command. Take those US soldier who massacred Vietnamese villages, not a lot of them went against their officers or team mates. I think that in the heat of the battle some men completly lose it. I would not prevent myself from playing a US GI in vietnam because some massacred vietnamese villages. I hope my GM would focus on something more interesting than that. If they were not brainwashed how can you explain that the SS -Waffen Charlemagne defend Berlin until the whole unit was killed (why would a French care about the Faith of Berlin, especially when France is already liberated)edit: forgot that they were fighting the Russians, which at the time were worse for their war prisonner than the german. Hitler Youth for me is similar to the scout or cadet, except that the concept taught were completly crazy. But the idea was the same. I personally think, like you mention, that the whole problem around the German is that they are still survivor and victim of this war alive. Maybe my son will play a German as I play a Roman centurion without having to bother about all the attrocities commited by his empire and just enjoy a different perspective, focusing on the strategic and romantised history, without hurting anybodies feeling. Please notes: that I am not a pro-nazi, anti jew or any bull:):):):) like that, I am just reflecting on a situation and do not approve the genocide like I don't approve any gratuitous and target violence against any group no more no less. [/QUOTE]
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