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<blockquote data-quote="Dross" data-source="post: 5223091" data-attributes="member: 33802"><p>I'm mostly happy with this part, but are there familiars or animal companions anywhere can casts spells?</p><p></p><p></p><p>In the 1st paragraph you state that no familiar CAN cast spells so it isn't necessary for RAW to point out it is not a two way street. Why do you not use the same argument in the quoted passage? </p><p>Using your argument in the first paragraph means that familiar to master sharing of spell is not possible. </p><p>Using your argument in the 2nd paragraph also requires you to note (PHB pg 52) "A familiar also grants special abilities to its master (a sorcerer or</p><p>wizard), as given on the table below." Nowhere does it say share spells with master.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't feel that that conclusion is valid. Do any critters in the expanded list casts spells? Do any of the improved familiar versions state that the share spells is a two way street?</p><p>As for the dictionary meaning of emphatic in the emphatic link</p><p></p><p>PHB pg 53 states: Because of the limited nature of the link, only general emotional content (such as fear, hunger, happiness, curiosity) can be communicated.</p><p>and for a paladin mount pg 45: "but they can communicate empathically"</p><p>I would call communicating way different to sharing spells.</p><p></p><p>To me that is too large a limitation to conclude that two-way sharing is possible. </p><p></p><p>There are a couple of things the familiar does provide to the master, the Alertness feat (which the master does not provide the familiar), and familiarity with a place the familiar has seen (again, the master cannot provide this). A paly mount provides familiarity in a similar way.</p><p></p><p>It looks like the share spells for both wizard and paly use the same wording as well.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I would call allowing two-way sharing of spells a house rule (which is something that may fit in the OP's game).</p><p></p><p>I also would think seriously of a PrC or a couple of feats to allow two-way sharing of spells.</p><p></p><p>Or (being <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/devil.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":devil:" title="Devil :devil:" data-shortname=":devil:" /> ) the dragon could try to take the paly as it's improved familiar</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dross, post: 5223091, member: 33802"] I'm mostly happy with this part, but are there familiars or animal companions anywhere can casts spells? In the 1st paragraph you state that no familiar CAN cast spells so it isn't necessary for RAW to point out it is not a two way street. Why do you not use the same argument in the quoted passage? Using your argument in the first paragraph means that familiar to master sharing of spell is not possible. Using your argument in the 2nd paragraph also requires you to note (PHB pg 52) "A familiar also grants special abilities to its master (a sorcerer or wizard), as given on the table below." Nowhere does it say share spells with master. I don't feel that that conclusion is valid. Do any critters in the expanded list casts spells? Do any of the improved familiar versions state that the share spells is a two way street? As for the dictionary meaning of emphatic in the emphatic link PHB pg 53 states: Because of the limited nature of the link, only general emotional content (such as fear, hunger, happiness, curiosity) can be communicated. and for a paladin mount pg 45: "but they can communicate empathically" I would call communicating way different to sharing spells. To me that is too large a limitation to conclude that two-way sharing is possible. There are a couple of things the familiar does provide to the master, the Alertness feat (which the master does not provide the familiar), and familiarity with a place the familiar has seen (again, the master cannot provide this). A paly mount provides familiarity in a similar way. It looks like the share spells for both wizard and paly use the same wording as well. I would call allowing two-way sharing of spells a house rule (which is something that may fit in the OP's game). I also would think seriously of a PrC or a couple of feats to allow two-way sharing of spells. Or (being :devil: ) the dragon could try to take the paly as it's improved familiar [/QUOTE]
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