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<blockquote data-quote="Steampunkette" data-source="post: 8392344" data-attributes="member: 6796468"><p>For my suggestion:</p><p>Sorc/War/Wiz: 1, 3, 5, 7, 9, 11, 13, 15, 17</p><p>Cler/Dru: 1, 3, 7, 9, 11, 15, 17</p><p>Bard: 1, 5, 11, 15, 17</p><p></p><p>And then things like Arcane Tricksters and Eldritch Knights would be unchanged. Rather than ever getting high tier magic, they're stuck gaining low-tier magic at higher levels.</p><p></p><p>So instead of getting Spells at 5th level or 13th level, the Cleric and Druid would get some special class feature. Meanwhile the Bard would gain cool stuff at 3, 7, 9, and 13 which better define their class.</p><p></p><p>Though it'd also be kinda cool to see a setup where slots phase out based on level... Where Cantrips are the bread n' butter of caster types but rather than just gaining more and more slots for the day, you lose lower-level slots as you gain higher levels and wind up with the same 10-12 spell slots for your entire career, but they're just higher and higher level.</p><p></p><p>So at level 1 you'd only have 1st level stuff, still, but by level 7 or 9 you no longer have any first level spell slots, and it just progresses like that so you wind up with a "Band" of 3-4 spell levels you're able to cast. You can still -use- lower-level spells, of course. Things like Knock or whatever. But they fade in usefulness and importance and become rituals or invocations that you always have access to, or something.</p><p></p><p>Like... you can still upcast stuff, like Fireball or whatever, if you know it and/or have it in your spellbook by casting it -from- the spellbook... But you no longer memorize them or cast them at their lowest-level using slots. Which would only work on specific ultility magics rather than being a blanket "All low level magic" thing, hence the ritual/noncombat suggestion.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Steampunkette, post: 8392344, member: 6796468"] For my suggestion: Sorc/War/Wiz: 1, 3, 5, 7, 9, 11, 13, 15, 17 Cler/Dru: 1, 3, 7, 9, 11, 15, 17 Bard: 1, 5, 11, 15, 17 And then things like Arcane Tricksters and Eldritch Knights would be unchanged. Rather than ever getting high tier magic, they're stuck gaining low-tier magic at higher levels. So instead of getting Spells at 5th level or 13th level, the Cleric and Druid would get some special class feature. Meanwhile the Bard would gain cool stuff at 3, 7, 9, and 13 which better define their class. Though it'd also be kinda cool to see a setup where slots phase out based on level... Where Cantrips are the bread n' butter of caster types but rather than just gaining more and more slots for the day, you lose lower-level slots as you gain higher levels and wind up with the same 10-12 spell slots for your entire career, but they're just higher and higher level. So at level 1 you'd only have 1st level stuff, still, but by level 7 or 9 you no longer have any first level spell slots, and it just progresses like that so you wind up with a "Band" of 3-4 spell levels you're able to cast. You can still -use- lower-level spells, of course. Things like Knock or whatever. But they fade in usefulness and importance and become rituals or invocations that you always have access to, or something. Like... you can still upcast stuff, like Fireball or whatever, if you know it and/or have it in your spellbook by casting it -from- the spellbook... But you no longer memorize them or cast them at their lowest-level using slots. Which would only work on specific ultility magics rather than being a blanket "All low level magic" thing, hence the ritual/noncombat suggestion. [/QUOTE]
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