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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Minigiant" data-source="post: 8394671" data-attributes="member: 63508">That's the point.6th through 9th spells invalidate whole types of quests and campaigns. Whole sets of major obstacles and conditionsare stripped away one by one.1st and 2nd level spells are basically "normal" items, goods,and services but faster, no cost, or no failure or next era technologyGrease, Charm Person, Shield, knock, Spider climb,3rd-5th level spells are minor miracles and lesser reality warping with restrictionsGaseous Form, Tongues, Control Water, Polymorph, Scrying,6th level spells and above is bending reality to your will with only the spells slot and material costs being your chainsThe point is not that the DM/GM is allowing the 11th+ level fullcaster to mess up the game, its that 5e designed the 11th+ level fullcaster to cut out some obstacles and threats. That's why you only get 1 of each. That's why class feature that recharge spells are limited to 5th and below. It is intentional tier based design.That problem for 3/4th and 2/3 casters is that within 6th-9th level spells, there is no rhyme or reason. It's not 6th and 7th level are quest breakers but 8th and 9th are campaign breakers. Spells are all over the place in power because legacy.Without intential design within the "big magic", there is no reason toi ntentionally design a 3/4th or 2/3rd caster. You'd be creating something without a purpose.</blockquote>