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<blockquote data-quote="Lord Pendragon" data-source="post: 1025576" data-attributes="member: 707"><p>This makes sense. If for any reason you lose the prerequisites for a feat, you lose access to that feat. So unless you were proficient with a morningstar (a prerequisite for focus) then you'd have Weapon Focus (morningstar) but not be able to use it. Luckily, the morningstar is a simple weapon. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>But if you gained the Weapon Focus as a racial feat, you should also gain the Alertness, no?Yes, but my reasoning is as follows:</p><p></p><p>1. The bugbear entry lists two feats: Alertness and Weapon Focus (Morningstar).</p><p>2. The characters section explains that Bugbears gain two feats <em>as racial feats</em>.</p><p>3. Thus, the two feats listed in the bugbear entry are <em>racial feats</em>.</p><p>4. The description of <em>Alter Self</em> says that the caster gains racial feats.</p><p>5. Thus, a character using <em>Alter Self</em> to become a bugbear should gain its two racial feats, Alertness and Weapon Focus (morningstar).</p><p></p><p>Or so it would seem.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lord Pendragon, post: 1025576, member: 707"] This makes sense. If for any reason you lose the prerequisites for a feat, you lose access to that feat. So unless you were proficient with a morningstar (a prerequisite for focus) then you'd have Weapon Focus (morningstar) but not be able to use it. Luckily, the morningstar is a simple weapon. :) But if you gained the Weapon Focus as a racial feat, you should also gain the Alertness, no?Yes, but my reasoning is as follows: 1. The bugbear entry lists two feats: Alertness and Weapon Focus (Morningstar). 2. The characters section explains that Bugbears gain two feats [i]as racial feats[/i]. 3. Thus, the two feats listed in the bugbear entry are [i]racial feats[/i]. 4. The description of [i]Alter Self[/i] says that the caster gains racial feats. 5. Thus, a character using [i]Alter Self[/i] to become a bugbear should gain its two racial feats, Alertness and Weapon Focus (morningstar). Or so it would seem. [/QUOTE]
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