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<blockquote data-quote="FrankTrollman" data-source="post: 1186833" data-attributes="member: 14225"><p>Why not?</p><p></p><p>It's supposed to be Fighter <em>and</em> a Wizard. That means it has to progress in both. When you enter the class you are several levels behind in your spellcasting and fighting progressions. So having them fall any <em>farther</em> behind in <em>either</em> makes them worthless.</p><p></p><p>The CR system assumes that one character 2 levels higher is worth about two characters at the lower level. That could be two fighters, or a spellcaster and a fighter working together. Once your character is fighting at the level of a character a couple of levels lower than he is - he has to gain fighting prowess at the same rate as a regular fighting PrC or he's falling behind. Once the character is a couple of levels behid where he could be in spellcasting - he has to gain spellcasting at the same rate as a spellcaster PrC or he's falling behind.</p><p></p><p>You've committed yourself to writing a prestige class to be a warrior <em>and</em> a spellcaster at the same time. The realities of 3.5 D&D being what they are - that means that you have to give out Full BAB, Full Spellcasting, and Combat Abilities every single level.</p><p></p><p>The class might look unbalanced - but the <em>character</em> won't be - which is what is actually important. As long as the real wizard is still casting more powerful spells, and the Order of the Bow Initiate still has a better BAB - the class isn't unbalanced.</p><p></p><p>Whenever you design a split class PrC like this: remember that you literally could simply be an all-out warrior and spend a feat on Leadership and have a pet wizard just two levels less than yourself. If your class is handing out spellcasting that is more than 2 levels behind the curve <em>ever</em> - you've failed. So if you even think of putting in half caster progression you might as well not waste our time.</p><p></p><p>-Frank</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FrankTrollman, post: 1186833, member: 14225"] Why not? It's supposed to be Fighter [i]and[/i] a Wizard. That means it has to progress in both. When you enter the class you are several levels behind in your spellcasting and fighting progressions. So having them fall any [i]farther[/i] behind in [i]either[/i] makes them worthless. The CR system assumes that one character 2 levels higher is worth about two characters at the lower level. That could be two fighters, or a spellcaster and a fighter working together. Once your character is fighting at the level of a character a couple of levels lower than he is - he has to gain fighting prowess at the same rate as a regular fighting PrC or he's falling behind. Once the character is a couple of levels behid where he could be in spellcasting - he has to gain spellcasting at the same rate as a spellcaster PrC or he's falling behind. You've committed yourself to writing a prestige class to be a warrior [i]and[/i] a spellcaster at the same time. The realities of 3.5 D&D being what they are - that means that you have to give out Full BAB, Full Spellcasting, and Combat Abilities every single level. The class might look unbalanced - but the [i]character[/i] won't be - which is what is actually important. As long as the real wizard is still casting more powerful spells, and the Order of the Bow Initiate still has a better BAB - the class isn't unbalanced. Whenever you design a split class PrC like this: remember that you literally could simply be an all-out warrior and spend a feat on Leadership and have a pet wizard just two levels less than yourself. If your class is handing out spellcasting that is more than 2 levels behind the curve [i]ever[/i] - you've failed. So if you even think of putting in half caster progression you might as well not waste our time. -Frank [/QUOTE]
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