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3.5 Arcane Archer -- Nifft's Version!
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<blockquote data-quote="Elder-Basilisk" data-source="post: 1195135" data-attributes="member: 3146"><p>The Arcane Archer doesn't look so bad compared to a single classed ranger, paladin, or barbarian either (although of all of those characters, only the ranger is good for typical archer builds making a direct comparison potentially misleading).</p><p></p><p>I wouldn't call Fighter 8/Wizard 2/Arcane Archer 10 "massive multiclassing" either. It's pretty much as vanilla as you can get and still qualify for the class. Massive multiclassing is something like Ftr 2/Clr 2/Mnk 2/Pal 3/Templar 3/Hospitaller 6/Warpriest 4 or Ftr 2/Rgr 1/Bbn 2/Wiz 2/Rog 4/Arcane Archer 3/Deepwood sniper 2/Order of the Bow Initiate 1/Peerless Archer 1 or Ftr 4/Bbn 1/Rgr 1/Rog 2/Temple Raider 2/Holy Liberator 3/Devoted Defender 3/Templar 2/Weapon Master 1.</p><p></p><p>For that matter, fighter 20 is certainly not "one of the worst possible" builds in D&D (although it may be one of the weakest viable builds). Things like (and, yes, I have actually seen this) Rog 2/Ftr 1/Clr 1/Wiz 1/Rgr 1/Bbn 1/Thief Acrobat 1/Lasher 1 and Wiz 4/Clr 2/Brd 3/Drd 2 are among the worst possible builds. (Halfling Monk/Necromancer is pretty close too).</p><p></p><p>My experience of D&D (only up to 16th level in 3.x but I think it's enough to let me understand what works) indicates that single classed fighter types are just as viable as single-classed anything else. Nearly any build can be improved by taking a dozen different prestige classes and the warrior types are easier to do this with than others but they're still quite viable in single-class form</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Elder-Basilisk, post: 1195135, member: 3146"] The Arcane Archer doesn't look so bad compared to a single classed ranger, paladin, or barbarian either (although of all of those characters, only the ranger is good for typical archer builds making a direct comparison potentially misleading). I wouldn't call Fighter 8/Wizard 2/Arcane Archer 10 "massive multiclassing" either. It's pretty much as vanilla as you can get and still qualify for the class. Massive multiclassing is something like Ftr 2/Clr 2/Mnk 2/Pal 3/Templar 3/Hospitaller 6/Warpriest 4 or Ftr 2/Rgr 1/Bbn 2/Wiz 2/Rog 4/Arcane Archer 3/Deepwood sniper 2/Order of the Bow Initiate 1/Peerless Archer 1 or Ftr 4/Bbn 1/Rgr 1/Rog 2/Temple Raider 2/Holy Liberator 3/Devoted Defender 3/Templar 2/Weapon Master 1. For that matter, fighter 20 is certainly not "one of the worst possible" builds in D&D (although it may be one of the weakest viable builds). Things like (and, yes, I have actually seen this) Rog 2/Ftr 1/Clr 1/Wiz 1/Rgr 1/Bbn 1/Thief Acrobat 1/Lasher 1 and Wiz 4/Clr 2/Brd 3/Drd 2 are among the worst possible builds. (Halfling Monk/Necromancer is pretty close too). My experience of D&D (only up to 16th level in 3.x but I think it's enough to let me understand what works) indicates that single classed fighter types are just as viable as single-classed anything else. Nearly any build can be improved by taking a dozen different prestige classes and the warrior types are easier to do this with than others but they're still quite viable in single-class form [/QUOTE]
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