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3.5 Arcane Archer -- Nifft's Version!
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<blockquote data-quote="ruleslawyer" data-source="post: 1195990" data-attributes="member: 1757"><p>Err, no. </p><p></p><p>Single-classed fighter is without a doubt the worst single core class build in the game, E-B. You have no useful skills, no class abilities, and the worst saves in the game; one good save without divine grace, rage, evasion, slippery mind, or any of the other goodies that the other one-save classes get to bolster their low save capability. You have lower hit points and damage-dealing capability than the barbarian, which theoretically should be about your equal or inferior in melee, and no ability to enhance your own combat abilities or counter magical attack without using items, which everyone else will have anyway. In fact, your viability at early levels is something of a penalty later on; lots of other folk will dip into fighter, take all of the nifty feats that you have, and then go into other classes or PrCs to roll up those abilities as well. </p><p></p><p>Nifft: OotBI doesn't have Ranged Power Attack; that's the Peerless Archer. </p><p></p><p>But I digress. Ultimately, I do see this arcane archer as a somewhat weak build. I keep running over an Eldritch Knight or cleric archer build in my mind and seeing much better potential. The EK in particular really does outclass this character. I think either slightly amped-up spellcasting (Nail's version) or a bonus feat or two are needed to bring this PrC to parity with other core PrCs.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ruleslawyer, post: 1195990, member: 1757"] Err, no. Single-classed fighter is without a doubt the worst single core class build in the game, E-B. You have no useful skills, no class abilities, and the worst saves in the game; one good save without divine grace, rage, evasion, slippery mind, or any of the other goodies that the other one-save classes get to bolster their low save capability. You have lower hit points and damage-dealing capability than the barbarian, which theoretically should be about your equal or inferior in melee, and no ability to enhance your own combat abilities or counter magical attack without using items, which everyone else will have anyway. In fact, your viability at early levels is something of a penalty later on; lots of other folk will dip into fighter, take all of the nifty feats that you have, and then go into other classes or PrCs to roll up those abilities as well. Nifft: OotBI doesn't have Ranged Power Attack; that's the Peerless Archer. But I digress. Ultimately, I do see this arcane archer as a somewhat weak build. I keep running over an Eldritch Knight or cleric archer build in my mind and seeing much better potential. The EK in particular really does outclass this character. I think either slightly amped-up spellcasting (Nail's version) or a bonus feat or two are needed to bring this PrC to parity with other core PrCs. [/QUOTE]
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