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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Shard O'Glase" data-source="post: 965227" data-attributes="member: 1134">Yes I don't use, I abuse the english language.  Sorry for any confusion.  And yes I'll wait and see, and honestly the DCs mean nothing to me since I never went for massive DC boosting.Its like with stat buffs.  They said hmm maybe these are too good, what's the problems.  Hypothetical conversation follows.They last too long.Extend them and they really last too long.you can empower them, and even empower them multiple times.Hey we could shorten the duration?Not bad, anything else?Well we could make it a flat bonus so they couldn't be empowered?Good, good., any other idea.Oh we can make it so you don't stack metamagic?Another good idea, but which should we go with.Lets playtest them all and see which we like?3 months later, what do you mean which one, I thought we were using all of them?  Oh well its too late now.</blockquote>