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<blockquote data-quote="GodOfCheese" data-source="post: 5338641" data-attributes="member: 19170">AFAICT the class description is lacking something-- either a limit to the visual range, the explicit denial of such a limit, or the addition of &quot;Darkvision __&quot;.&nbsp; To that end, 'A' makes sense to me, because it suggests the authors omitted &quot;Darkvision __&quot;.Plus, the wording says &quot;in darkness of any kind, even deeper darkness&quot;, which implies non-magical darkness.This would be easier if the See In Darkness ability were a standard special quality, indexed at the end of the book.&nbsp; :-(The word &quot;NEVER&quot; is a bit overblown here given that there aren't many instances of &quot;see in darkness&quot;.&nbsp; I wish I had my Monster Manuals with me to look for others, but from my desk I have only the SRD.&nbsp; Can someone point me to another instance of See In Darkness for comparison?&nbsp; Or is it specific to Devils?I noticed that too, which I found odd.I agree that there's no specific assertion about limits to See in Darkness, but I'm not convinced that Devils have unlimited visual range in darkness (Deeper or otherwise).&nbsp; This all seems like it boils down to what &quot;perfectly&quot; means.&nbsp; My previous post about the census on who-has-what-level-of-darkvision applies.&nbsp; If the authors had intended to let Devils see infinitely far in the dark, I'd have expected them to be more explicit about it.&nbsp; Regardless of which way I jump on this, it DOES explain why Devils have both, and suggests some interesting tactics...</blockquote>

[QUOTE="GodOfCheese, post: 5338641, member: 19170"] AFAICT the class description is lacking something-- either a limit to the visual range, the explicit denial of such a limit, or the addition of "Darkvision __". To that end, 'A' makes sense to me, because it suggests the authors omitted "Darkvision __". Plus, the wording says "in darkness of any kind, even deeper darkness", which implies non-magical darkness. This would be easier if the [I]See In Darkness[/I] ability were a standard special quality, indexed at the end of the book. :-( The word "NEVER" is a bit overblown here given that there aren't many instances of "see in darkness". I wish I had my Monster Manuals with me to look for others, but from my desk I have only the SRD. Can someone point me to another instance of See In Darkness for comparison? Or is it specific to Devils? I noticed that too, which I found odd. I agree that there's no specific assertion about limits to [I]See in Darkness[/I], but I'm not convinced that Devils have unlimited visual range in darkness (Deeper or otherwise). This all seems like it boils down to what "perfectly" means. My previous post about the census on who-has-what-level-of-darkvision applies. If the authors had intended to let Devils see infinitely far in the dark, I'd have expected them to be more explicit about it. Regardless of which way I jump on this, it DOES explain why Devils have both, and suggests some interesting tactics... [/QUOTE]

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