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<blockquote data-quote="GodOfCheese" data-source="post: 5341353" data-attributes="member: 19170">an explanation...Heh.&nbsp; Mostly because I'm clearly missing something about how the rules work in this instance.&nbsp; I knew Devils could see in Deeper Darkness, but I wasn't aware that they effectively had unlimited-range darkvision to go with it.&nbsp; My ruling depends, as I said, on what &quot;perfectly&quot; means.&nbsp; &quot;See perfectly in darkness of any kind&quot; could be defensibly interpreted as any of the following, possibly in combination:<ol>
<li data-xf-list-type="ol">Sees infinitely far in darkness</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ol">is unaffected by the magical anti-darkvision constraints of (Deeper) Darkness -- this one is confirmed by the text that follows.</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ol">sees through illusions as long as they are in darkness</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ol">automatically succeeds at any Spot or Search check made in darkness</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ol">does not suffer range penalties (-1 per 10') for Spot checks</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ol">suffers no penalties from concealment, fog, or invisibility under cover of darkness</li>
</ol>This may seem rules-lawyerly, but that's why I don't perceive this as a slam-dunk.&nbsp; The word &quot;perfect&quot; lacks context here, especially compared to many of the other descriptions in the SRD, which makes this very much open to interpretation.&nbsp; So am I missing something here?&nbsp; Are there other explicit mentions in the literature of devils being able to see for miles in pitch darkness?&nbsp; Perhaps in tactics (&quot;Knowing that most creatures can't see more than 60' or 120' in darkness, the Blah Devil will camp out 125' away and use ranged weaponry to take out its enemies...&quot;, etc)?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="GodOfCheese, post: 5341353, member: 19170"] [b]an explanation...[/b] Heh. Mostly because I'm clearly missing something about how the rules work in this instance. I knew Devils could see in Deeper Darkness, but I wasn't aware that they effectively had unlimited-range darkvision to go with it. My ruling depends, as I said, on what "perfectly" means. "See perfectly in darkness of any kind" could be defensibly interpreted as any of the following, possibly in combination: [LIST=1] [*]Sees infinitely far in darkness [*]is unaffected by the magical anti-darkvision constraints of (Deeper) Darkness -- this one is confirmed by the text that follows. [*]sees through illusions as long as they are in darkness [*]automatically succeeds at any Spot or Search check made in darkness [*]does not suffer range penalties (-1 per 10') for Spot checks [*]suffers no penalties from concealment, fog, or invisibility under cover of darkness [/LIST] This may seem rules-lawyerly, but that's why I don't perceive this as a slam-dunk. The word "perfect" lacks context here, especially compared to many of the other descriptions in the SRD, which makes this very much open to interpretation. So am I missing something here? Are there other explicit mentions in the literature of devils being able to see for miles in pitch darkness? Perhaps in tactics ("Knowing that most creatures can't see more than 60' or 120' in darkness, the Blah Devil will camp out 125' away and use ranged weaponry to take out its enemies...", etc)? [/QUOTE]

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