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<blockquote data-quote="VictorSim" data-source="post: 1081090" data-attributes="member: 11664">That NOPE is a fairly definitive (and rude) statement from someone who is WRONG.&nbsp; Your straw man argument about the bush is ludicrous.&nbsp; Here is a better example use a real world game of Hide and Seek.&nbsp; In situation one the Seeker counts to 6 (1 round) before beginning to try and find the Hider.&nbsp; In situation two the Seeker counts to 120 (2 minutes) before beginning to try and find the Hider.If you have ever played the game its obvious Hider number two is going to be much better hidden.&nbsp; Take 20 is about having the time to do the job properly.Of course the only time you can use Take 20 to hide is when no one is able to see you attempt to hide (for ambushes mainly).&nbsp; If you Take 20 while people are in the area then you are assumed to have rolled a 1 before the 20 and are presumably spotted and once someone notices you then you can no longer hide.Victor Sim</blockquote>

[QUOTE="VictorSim, post: 1081090, member: 11664"] That NOPE is a fairly definitive (and rude) statement from someone who is WRONG. Your straw man argument about the bush is ludicrous. Here is a better example use a real world game of Hide and Seek. In situation one the Seeker counts to 6 (1 round) before beginning to try and find the Hider. In situation two the Seeker counts to 120 (2 minutes) before beginning to try and find the Hider. If you have ever played the game its obvious Hider number two is going to be much better hidden. Take 20 is about having the time to do the job properly. Of course the only time you can use Take 20 to hide is when no one is able to see you attempt to hide (for ambushes mainly). If you Take 20 while people are in the area then you are assumed to have rolled a 1 before the 20 and are presumably spotted and once someone notices you then you can no longer hide. Victor Sim [/QUOTE]

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