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<blockquote data-quote="Urbannen" data-source="post: 1082535" data-attributes="member: 7643">Yay Am181d!&nbsp; This is how I interpret the rules as well.&nbsp; Taking 20 means you do the task 20 times.&nbsp; For the simplicity of play, it is assumed that in one of those tries you roll a 20.&nbsp; Taking 20 on a Search check requires two minutes, which is twenty tries.&nbsp; 20 6 second rounds = 2 minutes.&nbsp; You can't take 20 on a Hide check because there's a chance each of those 20 tries that the opponent will see you.&nbsp; You can't take 10 because you are under a threat of being seen, which would have to count as a distraction.&nbsp; &nbsp; From SRD:The Hide skill is used to avoid being seen while you are moving.&nbsp; The only exception given in the skill description is sniping, in which you do move but don't actually take a move action.&nbsp; If you hide yourself in order to ambush or spy, you are essentially hiding an unmoving object, namely yourself.&nbsp; There's no move action associated with sitting in the bushes or lying underneath a pile of leaves.&nbsp; You would use the rules for hidden objects at this point, which I believe means the DM would assign a Search DC for someone to find you in your hiding place.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Urbannen, post: 1082535, member: 7643"] Yay Am181d! This is how I interpret the rules as well. Taking 20 means you do the task 20 times. For the simplicity of play, it is assumed that in one of those tries you roll a 20. Taking 20 on a Search check requires two minutes, which is twenty tries. 20 6 second rounds = 2 minutes. You can't take 20 on a Hide check because there's a chance each of those 20 tries that the opponent will see you. You can't take 10 because you are under a threat of being seen, which would have to count as a distraction. From SRD: The Hide skill is used to avoid being seen while you are moving. The only exception given in the skill description is sniping, in which you do move but don't actually take a move action. If you hide yourself in order to ambush or spy, you are essentially hiding an unmoving object, namely yourself. There's no move action associated with sitting in the bushes or lying underneath a pile of leaves. You would use the rules for hidden objects at this point, which I believe means the DM would assign a Search DC for someone to find you in your hiding place. [/QUOTE]

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