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<blockquote data-quote="ScottB" data-source="post: 4918798" data-attributes="member: 30614">Hello,I am working on a Cloistered Cleric build in 3.5.&nbsp; I have a lot of it worked out, but there is some wiggle room regarding feats (and stats).&nbsp; I wondered if anyone could give me their advice or suggestions.Currently, I'm building a level 1 but planning a level 10 character.&nbsp; I'm going for the bookish type, trying to discover secrets mankind wasn't meant to know.&nbsp; I worship Baccob, and took Magic and Trickery domains.&nbsp; I rolled stats (very well), and allocated as followsStr&nbsp; 10Dex&nbsp; 16Con&nbsp; 17Int&nbsp; 12Wis&nbsp; 18Cha&nbsp; 9Should I futz with the numbers here (ie, am I right to believe that Wis &gt; Con &gt; Dex &gt; Int &gt; Str &gt; Cha, for a Cloistered Cleric)?&nbsp; Also, I can use the aging rules to pull a 20 Wis to start, but I end up with a total bonus of +9 rather than +10; is this worth it?&nbsp; It may look something like this:Str&nbsp; 6Dex&nbsp; 9Con&nbsp; 14Int&nbsp; 18Wis&nbsp; 20Cha&nbsp; 12That fits the character concept better, but it might hinder me later on; thoughs?Now on to Feats.&nbsp; The DM wants a mostly core game, but says he will approve feats (so these will be reviewed by him).&nbsp; I have four concepts of feats I want to take in my first 10 or so levels.&nbsp; These are rough, and in no particular order.All four models share Craft Wonderous Item and Craft Contingent Spell; I feel these are going to be handy, especially in a game world without an abundance of high level magic items (or high level humanoids to make them).&nbsp; If you disagree, let me know.Feats Plan A (chain touch buffs and ray debuffs):divine ward&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; CL 5th&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; *PH2chain spell&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 1 metamagic&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; *CArc&nbsp; &nbsp; +3divine metamagic&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; *CDivresidual magic&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; spellcraft 12&nbsp; &nbsp; *CMage&nbsp; &nbsp; knowledge devotion&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Know(any) 5&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; *CCFeats Plan B (quicken! a lot of quicken...):quicken spell&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; PHB&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; +4divine metamagic&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; *CDivresidual magic&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; spellcraft 12&nbsp; &nbsp; *CMage&nbsp; &nbsp; extra turning&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; PHB??? - FreeFeats Plan C (DMM Persist cheese, but I'll have at MOST 14 turn attempts):extend spell&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; PHB&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; +1persistant spell&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; extend spell&nbsp; &nbsp; *CAr&nbsp; &nbsp; +6divine metamagic&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; *CDivresidual magic&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; spellcraft 12&nbsp; &nbsp; *CMage&nbsp; &nbsp; invisible spell&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 1 metamagic&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; *City&nbsp; &nbsp; +0!Feats Plan D (turning just gives +4 to all saves, with other fun feats):Divine Fortune&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; CL 5th&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; *PH2leadership&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Lvl 6&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; PHBknowledge devotion&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Know(any) 5&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; *CCinvisible spell&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 1 metamagic&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; *City&nbsp; &nbsp; +0!Trickery Devotion&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; -&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; *CCAny preferences or advice on these, or suggestions for alternate feats I haven't considered?Thanks everybody!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ScottB, post: 4918798, member: 30614"] Hello, I am working on a Cloistered Cleric build in 3.5. I have a lot of it worked out, but there is some wiggle room regarding feats (and stats). I wondered if anyone could give me their advice or suggestions. Currently, I'm building a level 1 but planning a level 10 character. I'm going for the bookish type, trying to discover secrets mankind wasn't meant to know. I worship Baccob, and took Magic and Trickery domains. I rolled stats (very well), and allocated as follows Str 10 Dex 16 Con 17 Int 12 Wis 18 Cha 9 Should I futz with the numbers here (ie, am I right to believe that Wis > Con > Dex > Int > Str > Cha, for a Cloistered Cleric)? Also, I can use the aging rules to pull a 20 Wis to start, but I end up with a total bonus of +9 rather than +10; is this worth it? It may look something like this: Str 6 Dex 9 Con 14 Int 18 Wis 20 Cha 12 That fits the character concept better, but it might hinder me later on; thoughs? Now on to Feats. The DM wants a mostly core game, but says he will approve feats (so these will be reviewed by him). I have four concepts of feats I want to take in my first 10 or so levels. These are rough, and in no particular order. All four models share Craft Wonderous Item and Craft Contingent Spell; I feel these are going to be handy, especially in a game world without an abundance of high level magic items (or high level humanoids to make them). If you disagree, let me know. Feats Plan A (chain touch buffs and ray debuffs): divine ward CL 5th *PH2 chain spell 1 metamagic *CArc +3 divine metamagic - *CDiv residual magic spellcraft 12 *CMage knowledge devotion Know(any) 5 *CC Feats Plan B (quicken! a lot of quicken...): quicken spell - PHB +4 divine metamagic - *CDiv residual magic spellcraft 12 *CMage extra turning - PHB ??? - Free Feats Plan C (DMM Persist cheese, but I'll have at MOST 14 turn attempts): extend spell - PHB +1 persistant spell extend spell *CAr +6 divine metamagic - *CDiv residual magic spellcraft 12 *CMage invisible spell 1 metamagic *City +0! Feats Plan D (turning just gives +4 to all saves, with other fun feats): Divine Fortune CL 5th *PH2 leadership Lvl 6 PHB knowledge devotion Know(any) 5 *CC invisible spell 1 metamagic *City +0! Trickery Devotion - *CC Any preferences or advice on these, or suggestions for alternate feats I haven't considered? Thanks everybody! [/QUOTE]

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