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[3.5] Cohorts no longer gobble up party XP
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<blockquote data-quote="Pax" data-source="post: 992356" data-attributes="member: 6875"><p>Nor did Gimli, Legolas, Gandalf, Aragorn, nor Boromir. Are <strong>THEY</strong>, also, cohorts of Frodo? Or perhaps they are equal-weight PCs?</p><p></p><p>If anyone was a cohort, it was Samwise.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Says you. I, on the other hand, prefer to see everyone at the table be treated fairly ... when the <strong>gamemaster</strong> brings an NPC in that cuts the XP down, that's one thing -- the GM sets the rate of XP gain, NPC or not.</p><p></p><p>When a <strong>player</strong> brings in an NPC that does that, it's a different matter, and IMO, it's not "fine" anymore.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Quote me ONE TIME as sayng a cohort <strong>could not</strong> be valuable. My assertations are that the cohort is not USUALLY a valuable asset <strong>to the whole <em>PARTY.</em></strong></p><p></p><p>If you get out fo that my saying <strong>I</strong> am incompetent because <strong>I</strong> cannot make effective use of a cohort, then perhaps <strong>you</strong> need some remedial lessons in basic reading comprehension!</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Says you. I don't tend to play with people who twink their characters for UberPower efficiency, squeezing every last drop of ability-to-beat-the-odds out of each possible source on the characters' sheets.</p><p></p><p>Sometimes a cohort is taken just because the <strong>concept</strong> fits the character (the knight with a loyal, and even somewhat competent, squire; a Wizard and his younger, less capable, but eagerly loyal apprentice; etc).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The fact that you read me as saying <strong>I</strong> am <strong>unable</strong> to make a cohort useful is completely mystifying to me -- as nothing I've said would lead a REASONABLE person to conclude any such thing.</p><p></p><p><strong>Most</strong> cohorts are <strong>less</strong> likely to make an <strong>equal</strong> and significant contribution to the party, as <strong>most</strong> Player Characters can and will make, under <strong>most</strong> circumstances.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Says you; that would depend entirely on my character, and on the cohort in question, now, wouldn't it ... ?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p> <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f621.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":mad:" title="Mad :mad:" data-smilie="4"data-shortname=":mad:" /> Quote. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f621.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":mad:" title="Mad :mad:" data-smilie="4"data-shortname=":mad:" /> </p><p></p><p> <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f621.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":mad:" title="Mad :mad:" data-smilie="4"data-shortname=":mad:" /> Me. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f621.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":mad:" title="Mad :mad:" data-smilie="4"data-shortname=":mad:" /> </p><p></p><p> <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f621.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":mad:" title="Mad :mad:" data-smilie="4"data-shortname=":mad:" /> Saying. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f621.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":mad:" title="Mad :mad:" data-smilie="4"data-shortname=":mad:" /> </p><p></p><p> <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f621.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":mad:" title="Mad :mad:" data-smilie="4"data-shortname=":mad:" /> That. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f621.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":mad:" title="Mad :mad:" data-smilie="4"data-shortname=":mad:" /> </p><p></p><p> <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f621.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":mad:" title="Mad :mad:" data-smilie="4"data-shortname=":mad:" /> Even. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f621.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":mad:" title="Mad :mad:" data-smilie="4"data-shortname=":mad:" /> </p><p></p><p> <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f621.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":mad:" title="Mad :mad:" data-smilie="4"data-shortname=":mad:" /> <strong>ONCE.</strong> <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f621.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":mad:" title="Mad :mad:" data-smilie="4"data-shortname=":mad:" /> </p><p></p><p>One time, ****-for-brains. Just one time saying I <strong>could not</strong> make a cohort valuable.</p><p></p><p>And ... just to get a jump on things: when you prove utterly unable to do so, <strong>APOLOGISE</strong> like never before. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f621.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":mad:" title="Mad :mad:" data-smilie="4"data-shortname=":mad:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Pax, post: 992356, member: 6875"] Nor did Gimli, Legolas, Gandalf, Aragorn, nor Boromir. Are [b]THEY[/b], also, cohorts of Frodo? Or perhaps they are equal-weight PCs? If anyone was a cohort, it was Samwise. Says you. I, on the other hand, prefer to see everyone at the table be treated fairly ... when the [b]gamemaster[/b] brings an NPC in that cuts the XP down, that's one thing -- the GM sets the rate of XP gain, NPC or not. When a [b]player[/b] brings in an NPC that does that, it's a different matter, and IMO, it's not "fine" anymore. Quote me ONE TIME as sayng a cohort [b]could not[/b] be valuable. My assertations are that the cohort is not USUALLY a valuable asset [b]to the whole [i]PARTY.[/i][/b] If you get out fo that my saying [b]I[/b] am incompetent because [b]I[/b] cannot make effective use of a cohort, then perhaps [b]you[/b] need some remedial lessons in basic reading comprehension! Says you. I don't tend to play with people who twink their characters for UberPower efficiency, squeezing every last drop of ability-to-beat-the-odds out of each possible source on the characters' sheets. Sometimes a cohort is taken just because the [b]concept[/b] fits the character (the knight with a loyal, and even somewhat competent, squire; a Wizard and his younger, less capable, but eagerly loyal apprentice; etc). The fact that you read me as saying [b]I[/b] am [b]unable[/b] to make a cohort useful is completely mystifying to me -- as nothing I've said would lead a REASONABLE person to conclude any such thing. [b]Most[/b] cohorts are [b]less[/b] likely to make an [b]equal[/b] and significant contribution to the party, as [b]most[/b] Player Characters can and will make, under [b]most[/b] circumstances. Says you; that would depend entirely on my character, and on the cohort in question, now, wouldn't it ... ? :mad: Quote. :mad: :mad: Me. :mad: :mad: Saying. :mad: :mad: That. :mad: :mad: Even. :mad: :mad: [b]ONCE.[/b] :mad: One time, ****-for-brains. Just one time saying I [b]could not[/b] make a cohort valuable. And ... just to get a jump on things: when you prove utterly unable to do so, [b]APOLOGISE[/b] like never before. :mad: [/QUOTE]
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