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<blockquote data-quote="Genesist" data-source="post: 5625674" data-attributes="member: 6668459">Reposted with edits:Okay, I have calculated two of the builds so far. Below is the&nbsp;&nbsp; information assuming perfectly average rolls and a base con and str of&nbsp;&nbsp; 16. These assume only very basic armor and weapons, as I am not sure&nbsp; what items will be like, thus there will be lower AC and expected damage&nbsp; than what will likely occur. &nbsp;They are both calculated in full fighter form, dwarf is raged and enlarged. Human is in hybrid form and enlarged.&nbsp;Which do you think is better:&nbsp;Dwarf ranger 1/fighter 2/barb 1/sorc 1/dragon disciple 2:Average HP: 83Strength: 24BAB: 5Trip bonus: 15Ranged: 20Feats: combat reflexes, combat expertise, chain prof, improved trip, improved disarm, track (from ranger)Damage: 2d4+10 (assuming no up close use of claws/bite)Speed: 30Hit bonus: 12 Size: largeAC: 15Other things: favored enemy undead, level 1 spells, familiar, claw and bite, ability to rage (applied).&nbsp;&nbsp;Human wereape hybrid afflicted:Average HP: 51Strength: 28BAB: 4Trip bonus: 21Ranged: 30Feats: combat reflexes, combat expertise, chain prof, improved trip, iron will, alertness, toughnessDamage: 2d4+13 (assuming no up close use of claws/bite)Speed: 30Hit bonus: 13 Size: hugeAC: 16Other things: scent (this is very nice as you can't be easily snuck up&nbsp; on, meaning that tripping is nearly always possible), DR 5/silver (this&nbsp; could help to compensate for lower HP), low-light vision, potential to&nbsp; lose control of form, 2 wisdom. This build has lower MAD than the first.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Genesist, post: 5625674, member: 6668459"] Reposted with edits: Okay, I have calculated two of the builds so far. Below is the information assuming perfectly average rolls and a base con and str of 16. These assume only very basic armor and weapons, as I am not sure what items will be like, thus there will be lower AC and expected damage than what will likely occur. They are both calculated in full fighter form, dwarf is raged and enlarged. Human is in hybrid form and enlarged. Which do you think is better: Dwarf ranger 1/fighter 2/barb 1/sorc 1/dragon disciple 2: Average HP: 83 Strength: 24 BAB: 5 Trip bonus: 15 Ranged: 20 Feats: combat reflexes, combat expertise, chain prof, improved trip, improved disarm, track (from ranger) Damage: 2d4+10 (assuming no up close use of claws/bite) Speed: 30 Hit bonus: 12 Size: large AC: 15 Other things: favored enemy undead, level 1 spells, familiar, claw and bite, ability to rage (applied). Human wereape hybrid afflicted: Average HP: 51 Strength: 28 BAB: 4 Trip bonus: 21 Ranged: 30 Feats: combat reflexes, combat expertise, chain prof, improved trip, iron will, alertness, toughness Damage: 2d4+13 (assuming no up close use of claws/bite) Speed: 30 Hit bonus: 13 Size: huge AC: 16 Other things: scent (this is very nice as you can't be easily snuck up on, meaning that tripping is nearly always possible), DR 5/silver (this could help to compensate for lower HP), low-light vision, potential to lose control of form, 2 wisdom. This build has lower MAD than the first. [/QUOTE]

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