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<blockquote data-quote="StreamOfTheSky" data-source="post: 5625677" data-attributes="member: 35909">By what I quoted, it sounds like it does not.&nbsp; And you mean 3rd HD.&nbsp; You need to *try* to take those animal feats, only if you cannot while advancing as the lycanthrope does it give them to you as bonus feats.&nbsp; If I were DM, I'd just let you forgo the bonus feat you inevitably get in return for not having to waste any feats at all.&nbsp; But, RAW is RAW.If you wanted Ranger for the skills and favored enemy starting out, you could be a Human Wereape Ranger 1, too.&nbsp; The only feats you absolutely need are Combat Expertise and Improved Trip.&nbsp; Everything else can wait a level or two, its not critical.EDIT: How are the ACs still so close?&nbsp; DD has +1 natural armor, wereape is +5.&nbsp; Huge is 1 higher penalty than large is, but the DD stats are assuming Rage, which is an additional -2 AC.&nbsp; To top it off, the wereape is giving +4 dex from what I can tell by converting the monster stats.&nbsp; So shouldn't wereape's AC in the end be 7 points higher?&nbsp; Or did you give the DD character armor and not the wereape?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="StreamOfTheSky, post: 5625677, member: 35909"] By what I quoted, it sounds like it does not. And you mean 3rd HD. You need to *try* to take those animal feats, only if you cannot while advancing as the lycanthrope does it give them to you as bonus feats. If I were DM, I'd just let you forgo the bonus feat you inevitably get in return for not having to waste any feats at all. But, RAW is RAW. If you wanted Ranger for the skills and favored enemy starting out, you could be a Human Wereape Ranger 1, too. The only feats you absolutely need are Combat Expertise and Improved Trip. Everything else can wait a level or two, its not critical. EDIT: How are the ACs still so close? DD has +1 natural armor, wereape is +5. Huge is 1 higher penalty than large is, but the DD stats are assuming Rage, which is an additional -2 AC. To top it off, the wereape is giving +4 dex from what I can tell by converting the monster stats. So shouldn't wereape's AC in the end be 7 points higher? Or did you give the DD character armor and not the wereape? [/QUOTE]

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