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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Taren Seeker" data-source="post: 1002189" data-attributes="member: 615">Not to disparage any 3rd party designers out there, but I've seen some pretty idiotic things in those materials. I don't see why WotC should take them into consideration when cleaning up their own core rules.Expansion of ideas? WotC has just guaranteed that almost no-one will take improved crit when they have access to a 3rd level spell, an inexpensive magic item or a keen weapon. Combining this ruling with the new power attack and DR rules and they have also guaranteed that finesse fighters will never even approach the effectiveness of the high-strength tank. That sounds like a restriction of ideas to me. As many have demonstrated, allowing imp crit and keen to stack does not create a high powered game. In fact, having (for example) a 12-20 threat range on a falchion only allows it to keep up with heavier, lower threat weapons like the greatsword and greataxe. This is not power inflation, it's parity. So yes, I will ask the question: why wipe out a core rule that was AFAICT well recieved? To create a hole for a supplement to fill?And BTW, in Andy Collin's own words they didn't think 12-20 was too powerful, but that it just wasn't "special". Bah.I fail to see what bladed gauntlets have to do with anything. Regardless of imp crit and keen, the BG broke the weapon balance rules. As for not looking at other supplements, that was my point. WotC should worry about the rules they have created and no one else's, and the core rules should not change in response to a power or effect from an outside product, unless it's to steal good OGL material. Re: OA having more crit games, unless you're looking at the reprint of the S&F Weapon Master then not to my knowledge and I'm pretty familiar with the book. If you know of something please point it out.In conclusion, I can't see any real justification for nerfing the rule, except for the stated "specialness". That's not good enough for me. I think my group will do exactly what Monte Cook predicted, and that's raid 3.5 for house rules. Unfortunately, I am also heavily involved with Living Campaigns that will run the rules as written so I am stuck with some really poorly thought out changes.</blockquote>

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