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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mike Sullivan" data-source="post: 1004551" data-attributes="member: 9824">Yup.Yup.I was assuming a fully-upgraded scythe and greatsword for the 3.0 case (since that's where it differs from 3.5):  In other words, a keen scythe whose wielder has improved critical (or, alternatively, a scythe whose wielder has improved critical and who has cast keen edge on it), and similarly, a keen greatsword whose wielder has improved critical.Thus, the scythe has a range of 18-20/x4, and the greatsword has a range of 15-20/x2.  That means that 15% of the scythe's hits are criticals, which means that its damage can be expressed (if its damage is "y") as .85y + .15*4*y = .85y + .6y = 1.45y.Similarly, the greatsword crits on 30% of all of its hits, and does twice its normal damage on crits, so its damage is exprssed as: .7y + .3*2*y = .7y + .6y = 1.3y.If we were looking at unupgraded weapons (in either 3.0 or 3.5, which are identical in this case), then the inequality would be as follows (you'll see your ten percent figure here -- by the way, it's exactly 10% of all hits, though it's not exactly 10% of all attacks):1.15 ( 5 + x) > 1.1 (7 + x)5.75 + 1.15x > 7.7 + 1.1x.05x > 1.95x > 39So, that would mean that you'd need a +40 damage bonus to make a scythe or falchion worthwhile if you had neither keen nor improved critical.And, similarly for rapiers/picks versus longswords:1.15 (3.5 + x) > 1.1 (4.5 + x)4.025 + 1.15x > 4.95 + 1.1x.05x > .925x > 18.5So you'd need a +19 damage bonus to make a pick or rapier worthwhile over a longsword, if you had neither keen nor improved critical.</blockquote>

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