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[3.5] Crit stacking?
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<blockquote data-quote="Storm Raven" data-source="post: 996679" data-attributes="member: 307"><p></p><p></p><p>Sure, that increases the <em>frequency</em> by which a high level fighter may hit, but not the impact of such hits. Especially not the impact of a fighter who has specialized in scoring such precise hits.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>They "sort of" get the job done, if you take those specific feats. But that is a poor substitute for Improved Coirtical actually working with magic items.</p><p></p><p>How about this: let's rule that the bonus damage from Weapon Specialization (and subsequent improvements) does not stack with the bonsues to damage from magic items. Let's also rule that the bonus to attack rolls from Weapon Focus also does not stack with masterwork or magic bonuses to attack rolls. Are you okay with that change?</p><p></p><p>You should be, because it is the same as the change you think is hunky dory for criticals.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Umm, now you are just making stuff up. Critical stacking was <em>clearly</em> intended by the rules, since the rules discuss it. Perhaps you should go back and reread your rules. Specifically go reread the description of the feat "Improved Critical".</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Whcih logical falalcy is that? The logivcal fallacy that those who are highly skilled at something are better at it than those who are not?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No. Now it represents the obviation of the Improved Critical feat.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No, he is <em>more skilled</em>. Just like the individual with Improved Critical is <em>more skilled</em> than the individual who does not.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>To a great extent yes. A professional gambler can consistently make money by gambling. A tourist will consistently lose money by gambling (that is how casinos stay in business). The professional gambler is enormously better off than the tourist.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The above analogy not only isn't perfect, it is compeltely irrelevant. It has absolutely no bearing on the issue. Critical hits are not the result of "luck" they are the result of <em>skill</em>. Someone who is very good at inflicting critical hits is very good at them. Is Eric Clapton able to turn out a perfect virtuouso guitar solo every time? Are his chances of doing so enormously better than the guy who plays in the high school band down the street? That's the difference, the skill. Your analogy isn't even in the same area code as the actual situation you are trying to analogize.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Storm Raven, post: 996679, member: 307"] [B][/b] Sure, that increases the [i]frequency[/i] by which a high level fighter may hit, but not the impact of such hits. Especially not the impact of a fighter who has specialized in scoring such precise hits. They "sort of" get the job done, if you take those specific feats. But that is a poor substitute for Improved Coirtical actually working with magic items. How about this: let's rule that the bonus damage from Weapon Specialization (and subsequent improvements) does not stack with the bonsues to damage from magic items. Let's also rule that the bonus to attack rolls from Weapon Focus also does not stack with masterwork or magic bonuses to attack rolls. Are you okay with that change? You should be, because it is the same as the change you think is hunky dory for criticals. Umm, now you are just making stuff up. Critical stacking was [i]clearly[/i] intended by the rules, since the rules discuss it. Perhaps you should go back and reread your rules. Specifically go reread the description of the feat "Improved Critical". Whcih logical falalcy is that? The logivcal fallacy that those who are highly skilled at something are better at it than those who are not? No. Now it represents the obviation of the Improved Critical feat. No, he is [i]more skilled[/i]. Just like the individual with Improved Critical is [i]more skilled[/i] than the individual who does not. To a great extent yes. A professional gambler can consistently make money by gambling. A tourist will consistently lose money by gambling (that is how casinos stay in business). The professional gambler is enormously better off than the tourist. The above analogy not only isn't perfect, it is compeltely irrelevant. It has absolutely no bearing on the issue. Critical hits are not the result of "luck" they are the result of [i]skill[/i]. Someone who is very good at inflicting critical hits is very good at them. Is Eric Clapton able to turn out a perfect virtuouso guitar solo every time? Are his chances of doing so enormously better than the guy who plays in the high school band down the street? That's the difference, the skill. Your analogy isn't even in the same area code as the actual situation you are trying to analogize. [/QUOTE]
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