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<blockquote data-quote="barsoomcore" data-source="post: 1698208" data-attributes="member: 812">8 SECONDS!? Holy crap. Which pages are that slow? None of the obvious culprits take anywhere near that length when I'm testing. I definitely consider more than two or three seconds to be unacceptable -- and while I know a couple of pages take longer than that, they're mostly things like &quot;All Skills&quot; or &quot;All Creatures&quot; -- which I don't imagine many people choose to view. If you can tell me which pages are giving you the worst times, I'd sure appreciate it.The other big pages (like the equipment pages) are for the most part NOT dynamically generated -- most of my site is actually &quot;mostly&quot; static (except for the menus and stuff). I doubt the load times you're experiencing are due to the back-end scripting. Among my list of things to do someday lurks a review of those big pages and figuring out a better organizational system.Besides, those pages cache just fine. Or at least they do for me.The reason for providing some of the &quot;list&quot; content (feats, skills, spells, etc) through dynamic pages is because it solves this very problem. Dynamic page creation allows you to both break it up and allow browsable displays, while maintaining a single set of data. Otherwise, implementing updates and errata becomes impossible. Or at least incredibly tedious.Even if my dynamic pages are slow in loading, well, I've never done ANY PHP scripting before in my life, and I know nothing about servers or routers or any of that crap. There's no reason to take my site as a sign of what's typical -- I suck. I'm sure someone with a modicum of experience or training could improve things by sufficient margin to overcome any concerns -- though as you say, page load time isn't a big deal.My reason for wanting individual display of items has more to do with straightforward presentation of data than load time. It just bugs me when I ask to see something and I get a great big list of stuff I'm not interested in. From a site mangement perspective, dynamic pages make sense because it's so much easier to update things.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="barsoomcore, post: 1698208, member: 812"] 8 SECONDS!? Holy crap. Which pages are that slow? None of the obvious culprits take anywhere near that length when I'm testing. I definitely consider more than two or three seconds to be unacceptable -- and while I know a couple of pages take longer than that, they're mostly things like "All Skills" or "All Creatures" -- which I don't imagine many people choose to view. If you can tell me which pages are giving you the worst times, I'd sure appreciate it. The other big pages (like the equipment pages) are for the most part NOT dynamically generated -- most of my site is actually "mostly" static (except for the menus and stuff). I doubt the load times you're experiencing are due to the back-end scripting. Among my list of things to do someday lurks a review of those big pages and figuring out a better organizational system. Besides, those pages cache just fine. Or at least they do for me. The reason for providing some of the "list" content (feats, skills, spells, etc) through dynamic pages is because it solves this very problem. Dynamic page creation allows you to both break it up and allow browsable displays, while maintaining a single set of data. Otherwise, implementing updates and errata becomes impossible. Or at least incredibly tedious. Even if my dynamic pages are slow in loading, well, I've never done ANY PHP scripting before in my life, and I know nothing about servers or routers or any of that crap. There's no reason to take my site as a sign of what's typical -- I suck. I'm sure someone with a modicum of experience or training could improve things by sufficient margin to overcome any concerns -- though as you say, page load time isn't a big deal. My reason for wanting individual display of items has more to do with straightforward presentation of data than load time. It just bugs me when I ask to see something and I get a great big list of stuff I'm not interested in. From a site mangement perspective, dynamic pages make sense because it's so much easier to update things. [/QUOTE]

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