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<blockquote data-quote="Henry" data-source="post: 960187" data-attributes="member: 158"><p>My problem with the "dwarven bonuses" added to 3.5 is one of power creep.</p><p></p><p>As I understand it:</p><p></p><p>Humans get little to no change. Humans, with their skill bonus and their feat bonus, can stand pretty well on their own nowadays.</p><p></p><p>Half-elves gain a +2 to diplomacy and 1 other skill (sense motive?) to add to their bonuses to spot, listen, elven blood bonuses to enchantment saves, and multiclassing. Not the best, but not worthless, either.</p><p></p><p>Halflings do very well for themselves with their small stature and a suite of defensive bonuses.</p><p></p><p>Gnomes received some useful abilities, and have received a significant power-up, though not many would consider them too powerful.</p><p></p><p>Dwarves in 3E, however, were quite powerful to begin with. +2 to con, darkvision vs. nightvision, +2 stonecunning, +2 to poison AND spells, +1 to hit goblinoids, +4 dodge vs. giants, +2 to appraise metal or stone, +2 to craft metal or stone. Add to this a stability bonus, a familiarity with one quite powerful exotic weapon, and no move penalty for bulky armor, and you create a package of abilities that dwarfs (pun intended) the other races' abilities. I don't see the need to the addition of insult to injury posed by this.</p><p></p><p>Maybe the proof is in the playtesting, but it seems like something that will bring even more dwarven fighter multiclasses out of the woodwork than there are now.</p><p></p><p>Then again, getting the chance to play a mid-level Dwarven fighter/wizard two-handed wielding a Dwarven Waraxe and casting stilled spells like no tomorrow could be fun... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Henry, post: 960187, member: 158"] My problem with the "dwarven bonuses" added to 3.5 is one of power creep. As I understand it: Humans get little to no change. Humans, with their skill bonus and their feat bonus, can stand pretty well on their own nowadays. Half-elves gain a +2 to diplomacy and 1 other skill (sense motive?) to add to their bonuses to spot, listen, elven blood bonuses to enchantment saves, and multiclassing. Not the best, but not worthless, either. Halflings do very well for themselves with their small stature and a suite of defensive bonuses. Gnomes received some useful abilities, and have received a significant power-up, though not many would consider them too powerful. Dwarves in 3E, however, were quite powerful to begin with. +2 to con, darkvision vs. nightvision, +2 stonecunning, +2 to poison AND spells, +1 to hit goblinoids, +4 dodge vs. giants, +2 to appraise metal or stone, +2 to craft metal or stone. Add to this a stability bonus, a familiarity with one quite powerful exotic weapon, and no move penalty for bulky armor, and you create a package of abilities that dwarfs (pun intended) the other races' abilities. I don't see the need to the addition of insult to injury posed by this. Maybe the proof is in the playtesting, but it seems like something that will bring even more dwarven fighter multiclasses out of the woodwork than there are now. Then again, getting the chance to play a mid-level Dwarven fighter/wizard two-handed wielding a Dwarven Waraxe and casting stilled spells like no tomorrow could be fun... :) [/QUOTE]
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