Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.

Reply to thread

Message: <blockquote data-quote="DaemonHunter" data-source="post: 5187296" data-attributes="member: 90373">Yes I like to think of it as 3.75 as well <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />  As for the 2 shield and 2 lance guys and other shenanigans as payn pointed out, they have always been there and there will always be people that want to bend the rules to breaking point.  You cant cover everything in a rules set, thats what the DM is for <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />  I dont have a group that would do things like that to them its the character of their PC's not the rules, But I have had players like that before and I must say i dont suffer fools lightly LOL.To try and answer the OP here we go <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />To me its just like as i said earlier 3.75 and I try to give all my games that classic feel.  With this and 3x the DM just needs to work abit harder I feel other than that I wouldnt go back <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />I dont remeber fully but mostly as 3x but without xp costs just time, components and money.Again nothing I have noticed, I like the base class changers alot really makes you think hard about not taking 20 levels. I found before most players would only look for PrC and use the base classes to get them there.They still use CR they have just re-CRed (LOL) some of them as they thought so,me were in need of higher or lower CR's As has already be said its pretty easy to use straight out the book or change on the fly.  The only big change I dont like is nearly everything that was immune to sneak attack now isnt.  Most of the creature changers to cr and rules are for the better.I havent found they changes to PC's effect stuff too much and if it does its easily over come.  I would say if you like/played 3x then pathfinder is for you <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />  I'm sure as an old time gamer like myself you can give your games that old time feel <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

Verification