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Message: <blockquote data-quote="LokiDR" data-source="post: 995939" data-attributes="member: 6239">You entirely misstated my position, intention, and most of my comments on this thread.  That is why I think you are ignoring them.Yes, the class is so perfectly balanced that the addition or removal of any ability will cause it to be unbalanced.  If toughness was added at 5th level, the whole thing would fall apart.Umm, no.If a DM wants to dissallow PrC, they are saying that specilization or expansion of abilities does not fit in their game.  So, any case that would require expansion of abilities to work well would not be possible.  I don't think you will find any person who is a lawer and a professional athleet and does pretty well at each.  Is that because no one wants to?  Or is it because excelling at those two different carreers just doesn't work?  Fighter wizards just don't work.  If you want to change that, it goes in the same realm as a person that wants to super-specialize in hiding as an example.But, there is a better reason that your arguement is bad.  You are throwing out a large chunck of rules!  Don't you think that is rather silly in a rules arguement?  If a DM wants to allow broader characters but not specialized characters, he can bloody well use more base classes or other do some other rule change.  The rules are not designed to be focused on being changed.  They are supposed to work together.EK is boring, and something should have been added to the class to make it more unique, befitting those who go down this path.</blockquote>

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