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[3.5] Eldritch knight abilities?
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<blockquote data-quote="Mike Sullivan" data-source="post: 996559" data-attributes="member: 9824"><p>No, you haven't. You're currently doing your best to confuse everyone else, because you somehow feel it will make you save face now that you're having increasing difficulty coming up with any actual reasons to back up your thesis.</p><p></p><p>Wishing that the reason I still disagree with you is because I don't understand you doesn't make it so. I grasp every point you've made -- but, in my opinion, you're just wrong.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It'd aso let you wear Mithral chain (shirt) +5, and get another five points of AC for hundreds of thousands less gold than an equivalent AC would cost a normal Wizard who wanted 0 ASF.</p><p></p><p>Nice try, though.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>What, exactly, are you dancing around saying, here, Loki? Are you trying to claim that PrC's <em>aren't</em> optional? Or are you just trying to imply that even though you know it's false?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The plural of "anecdote" is not "data." The <em>singular</em> of anecdote is particularly far from "data."</p><p></p><p>...And, yeah, that about covers all of the actual points in your post. For everything that I didn't line-by-line quote and respond to, I refer you to the first two paragraphs of this post.</p><p></p><p></p><p>EDIT: Oh, wait, there was one other actual point in there. Yes, naturally a GM who disallows PrC's wants to limit specialization and/or wacky new abilities. That's my point -- that such a GM might be okay with the Eldritch Knight because it doesn't allow any wacky new abilities, and it doesn't allow specialization beyond what the multiclass system "should" provide. Thus, the EK is palatable as a system patch even for those who aren't keen on traditional PrC's.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mike Sullivan, post: 996559, member: 9824"] No, you haven't. You're currently doing your best to confuse everyone else, because you somehow feel it will make you save face now that you're having increasing difficulty coming up with any actual reasons to back up your thesis. Wishing that the reason I still disagree with you is because I don't understand you doesn't make it so. I grasp every point you've made -- but, in my opinion, you're just wrong. It'd aso let you wear Mithral chain (shirt) +5, and get another five points of AC for hundreds of thousands less gold than an equivalent AC would cost a normal Wizard who wanted 0 ASF. Nice try, though. What, exactly, are you dancing around saying, here, Loki? Are you trying to claim that PrC's [i]aren't[/i] optional? Or are you just trying to imply that even though you know it's false? The plural of "anecdote" is not "data." The [i]singular[/i] of anecdote is particularly far from "data." ...And, yeah, that about covers all of the actual points in your post. For everything that I didn't line-by-line quote and respond to, I refer you to the first two paragraphs of this post. EDIT: Oh, wait, there was one other actual point in there. Yes, naturally a GM who disallows PrC's wants to limit specialization and/or wacky new abilities. That's my point -- that such a GM might be okay with the Eldritch Knight because it doesn't allow any wacky new abilities, and it doesn't allow specialization beyond what the multiclass system "should" provide. Thus, the EK is palatable as a system patch even for those who aren't keen on traditional PrC's. [/QUOTE]
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