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[3.5] Fiend of Possession: rules/plot quagmire (long)
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<blockquote data-quote="Cyronax" data-source="post: 1064441" data-attributes="member: 822"><p>Right, its definetely not a normal possession. As far as I've fleshed it out, I'm considering it to be a little like what you advised. The cleric, before he went insane, had basically bartered the agreement for possession out like this: save my daughter and you can become ME for the duration of your (the demon's) quest to get to the weird and do what it had to do in the dungeon. The cleric, who was probably the most pious and renown member of his order, was really the target of a long devised plot by a CE cult....so this isn't a classic quick, possession, the cult's plot basically had thrown all the other options out the window for the cleric. So despite the fact that he's lost some of his 'purity,' he's not completely fallen. An atoning act/ritual could eventually redeem him. </p><p></p><p>An offline friend suggested that the possessing demon would actually not be affected by the temporal stasis alone, so that the weird would have cast dimensional anchor as well as magic circle against chaos in order to keep the demon stuck. The demon, as you said, may then just be aware of the passage of time, and the insanity spell in this case would somewhat irrelevant although it could still be used.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Actually I was thinking about that to, and part of the reason I posted was to help make my ideas less of a railroad and more of a problem the party can solve without meddling. </p><p></p><p>I actually hadn't planned it out to be a battle actually per se. The demon's sole motivating factor once its freed is going to be to escape, because its goal in the dungeon is finished. </p><p></p><p>Its goal was to find a piece of a greater holy magical item in the 'vault' of the weird, and then use a possessed creature to carry it and the item out. </p><p></p><p>...in the end, yes it could turn into a battle, and perhaps therein lies the problem. My feeling however, was that the battle would ensue after the wounded demon tries to negotiate, since the cleric no longer has spells, the demon is at a bit of a disadvantage in that form. </p><p></p><p>One of the party member's, actually a member of the fallen cleric's order, has an item that allows him to see into the ethereal (much like the shaman from OA), so the demon will be in a doubly difficult position, and likely will only escape through subterfuge. Again, the idea is convoluted and falls aparts the more i think about it. Good thing this is merely the first draft of an adventure that the party probably won't get to til Novemeber. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>All that sounds like an excellent idea. Maybe something along those lines would work better if I do end up cutting the palrethee. I'll hold that one in reserve I guess.</p><p></p><p>Another idea that I'd also considered, was that the cleric and the demon had both been separated, and then each was put into a temoral stasis or imprisoned (with the black pearls left in an accessible place). </p><p></p><p>Nok, thanks for the help, any other comments anyone?</p><p></p><p>C.I.D.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cyronax, post: 1064441, member: 822"] Right, its definetely not a normal possession. As far as I've fleshed it out, I'm considering it to be a little like what you advised. The cleric, before he went insane, had basically bartered the agreement for possession out like this: save my daughter and you can become ME for the duration of your (the demon's) quest to get to the weird and do what it had to do in the dungeon. The cleric, who was probably the most pious and renown member of his order, was really the target of a long devised plot by a CE cult....so this isn't a classic quick, possession, the cult's plot basically had thrown all the other options out the window for the cleric. So despite the fact that he's lost some of his 'purity,' he's not completely fallen. An atoning act/ritual could eventually redeem him. An offline friend suggested that the possessing demon would actually not be affected by the temporal stasis alone, so that the weird would have cast dimensional anchor as well as magic circle against chaos in order to keep the demon stuck. The demon, as you said, may then just be aware of the passage of time, and the insanity spell in this case would somewhat irrelevant although it could still be used. Actually I was thinking about that to, and part of the reason I posted was to help make my ideas less of a railroad and more of a problem the party can solve without meddling. I actually hadn't planned it out to be a battle actually per se. The demon's sole motivating factor once its freed is going to be to escape, because its goal in the dungeon is finished. Its goal was to find a piece of a greater holy magical item in the 'vault' of the weird, and then use a possessed creature to carry it and the item out. ...in the end, yes it could turn into a battle, and perhaps therein lies the problem. My feeling however, was that the battle would ensue after the wounded demon tries to negotiate, since the cleric no longer has spells, the demon is at a bit of a disadvantage in that form. One of the party member's, actually a member of the fallen cleric's order, has an item that allows him to see into the ethereal (much like the shaman from OA), so the demon will be in a doubly difficult position, and likely will only escape through subterfuge. Again, the idea is convoluted and falls aparts the more i think about it. Good thing this is merely the first draft of an adventure that the party probably won't get to til Novemeber. :) All that sounds like an excellent idea. Maybe something along those lines would work better if I do end up cutting the palrethee. I'll hold that one in reserve I guess. Another idea that I'd also considered, was that the cleric and the demon had both been separated, and then each was put into a temoral stasis or imprisoned (with the black pearls left in an accessible place). Nok, thanks for the help, any other comments anyone? C.I.D. [/QUOTE]
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