D&D 3E/3.5 [3.5] How to convert a Weapon of Sure Striking?

Metallian

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A PC in my campaign has a weapon of Sure Striking. Does such a weapon make sense under the current DR rules? If so, would it still be a +1 equivalent weapon ability?

If not, I'll probably convert it to a Good-Aligned (not Holy) Adamantine weapon, as the character is a CG Cleric and I don't think he's used it against anything that wouldn't now be affected by Magic, Good, or Adamantine anyway.

The Metallian
 

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Metallian said:
A PC in my campaign has a weapon of Sure Striking. Does such a weapon make sense under the current DR rules? If so, would it still be a +1 equivalent weapon ability?

If not, I'll probably convert it to a Good-Aligned (not Holy) Adamantine weapon, as the character is a CG Cleric and I don't think he's used it against anything that wouldn't now be affected by Magic, Good, or Adamantine anyway.

The Metallian

I had a sure striking weapon pre-conversion as well, and chose to replace the sure striking ability with another +1 ability.

Personally, I don't see a place for sure striking in the new DR system. The new system tries to make different kinds of DR more relevant, so a +1 enchantment that defeats them all would be a bit out of line in my opinion.

Later,

Skaros
 

What I'd do with Sure Stirking is pick any two (or one or three maybe) DR types other than magic or epic for bypassing. Make a list, lawful-chaotic-evil-good-adamantine-etc and say pick any two for each application of Sure Striking. I'm not sure about the balance, maybe it should be only one DR type. Hm...
 

Metallian said:
Does such a weapon make sense under the current DR rules?

Not to me, no. I could see it as an epic enhancement, but I still wouldn't want one in the game. I really like the new DR mechanics, as well as the flavor it adds, and weapon of sure striking would only belittle that.
 

I'm really tempted to do something like this:

Metamorphic Weapon: This +1 weapon enchantment can assume the essense of other materials for a short time. As a Full round action that provokes AoO's the wielder may attune the weapon to a specific material type (Silver, Cold Iron, so on). This change does not result in any other abilities of the material (increased hardness, reduced damage) besides the ability to bypass material based DR. The change lasts for a single minute.

Flavor to taste. Possibly require a small sample of the material in question, possibly consumed. Thought about throwing in a simple skill check of some kind as well.

Much weaker than the previous sure striking powers. Which is a good thing, as that was a bit much.
 

Re: Re: [3.5] How to convert a Weapon of Sure Striking?

kreynolds said:

Not to me, no. I could see it as an epic enhancement, but I still wouldn't want one in the game. I really like the new DR mechanics, as well as the flavor it adds, and weapon of sure striking would only belittle that.

I agree on all counts.

I talked to the player about it and he liked the Good-Aligned/Adamantine idea. So it'll beat Magic, Good, and Adamantine...which should cover a wide range of beasties.

The Metallian
 

I like the idea of a DR-pentrating weapon enhancement, but IMO allowing it to duplicate any material is a bit too strong. My version of the enhancement lets the weapon penetrate one type of damage reduction for a +1 bonus. A second simulated material costs +2, and a third +3.

Say you start with a regular steel weapon. If you enhance it to pentrate silver DR, it'll cost you a +1 bonus. If you make it penetrate both silver and adamantine DR, that's a total of +3. The combination of silver, adamantine, and mithral is worth a total of +6. (This counts as three separate abilities, so it doesn't make the weapon epic.)
 

I would say there's a good reason that there is no spell or weapon-ability that lets a weapon change materials - because it would throw off the balance of the DR system. Allowing a simple +1 enhancement to bypass the DR thing would probably trivialize the whole thing. (Additionally cold iron is supposed to be resistant to magic, so using magic to create the effect seems a bit hinky.)

There is always silversheen.

To go to the first question, no I don't think there's a place any more for sure striking.
 

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