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[3.5] Improved Heighten Spell NOT Metamagic??
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<blockquote data-quote="irdeggman" data-source="post: 1853869" data-attributes="member: 16285"><p>How about this one:</p><p></p><p>"ACQUIRING EPIC FEATS</p><p>Characters gain epic feats in the following ways: </p><p></p><p>At 21st level, and every three levels thereafter, the character may select an epic feat in place of a nonepic feat.</p><p></p><p>Each character class gains bonus epic feats according to the class description. These feats must be selected from the list of bonus epic feats for that class."</p><p></p><p>This is not the exception - this is the rule.</p><p></p><p>Under each epic class it lists which epic feats are allowed as bonus feats. An epic character can also use his epic level character level feats to gain epic level feats.</p><p></p><p></p><p>If you notice the reference is to standard class abilities. This does not include gaining epic feats. </p><p></p><p>There is a reason that the epic feats are listed as epic and metamagic (when applicable). The meet both requirements. And the requirements for gaining epic feats are those listed in the quote above. Feats in the PHB are listed as General, item creation and metamagic. Divine feats werre added in subsequent books. They are not listed as General-metamagic. Fighter feats are annotated with a superscript and note stating these feats are available as bonuse feats for the class</p><p></p><p>When the epic wizard advances he gains bonus epic feats (or non-epic level wizard feats).</p><p></p><p>Now if you notice I didn't say that the character couldn't acquire the epic feat as his normal epic level progression feat (as long as he meets the requirements - notably ranks) - all I said was that he couldn't gain an epic feat as part of his normal class progression (i.e., non-epic level).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="irdeggman, post: 1853869, member: 16285"] How about this one: "ACQUIRING EPIC FEATS Characters gain epic feats in the following ways: At 21st level, and every three levels thereafter, the character may select an epic feat in place of a nonepic feat. Each character class gains bonus epic feats according to the class description. These feats must be selected from the list of bonus epic feats for that class." This is not the exception - this is the rule. Under each epic class it lists which epic feats are allowed as bonus feats. An epic character can also use his epic level character level feats to gain epic level feats. If you notice the reference is to standard class abilities. This does not include gaining epic feats. There is a reason that the epic feats are listed as epic and metamagic (when applicable). The meet both requirements. And the requirements for gaining epic feats are those listed in the quote above. Feats in the PHB are listed as General, item creation and metamagic. Divine feats werre added in subsequent books. They are not listed as General-metamagic. Fighter feats are annotated with a superscript and note stating these feats are available as bonuse feats for the class When the epic wizard advances he gains bonus epic feats (or non-epic level wizard feats). Now if you notice I didn't say that the character couldn't acquire the epic feat as his normal epic level progression feat (as long as he meets the requirements - notably ranks) - all I said was that he couldn't gain an epic feat as part of his normal class progression (i.e., non-epic level). [/QUOTE]
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