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<blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 1018746" data-attributes="member: 1656">Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: reSituation: Trying to pick a lock.&nbsp; The character has a +10 bonus, and the DC is 20... but the player doesn't know that.&nbsp; The player guesses the DC at 25.He rolls an 11.&nbsp; The DM's about to tell him what happens, when... &quot;Wait!&quot; the player says.&nbsp; &quot;I wanna reroll that one.&quot;On the reroll - 11 again.&quot;The lock opens,&quot; the DM informs him.The decision to use the power is made after the roll, but before the result of that roll is known.&nbsp; Thus, it has to be a metagame decision on the player's part, not a choice on the character's part... the character can't see the die roll, and the result of the die roll - the thing the character can observe - hasn't happened yet when the decision must be made.I see the choice to expend an AoO against a provocation by an invisible opponent as a similar metagame decision by the player, rather than an in-game choice by the PC, since it's based on an event the PC has no knowledge of.-Hyp.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hypersmurf, post: 1018746, member: 1656"] [b]Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: re[/b] Situation: Trying to pick a lock. The character has a +10 bonus, and the DC is 20... but the player doesn't know that. The player guesses the DC at 25. He rolls an 11. The DM's about to tell him what happens, when... "Wait!" the player says. "I wanna reroll that one." On the reroll - 11 again. "The lock opens," the DM informs him. The decision to use the power is made after the roll, but before the result of that roll is known. Thus, it [i]has[/i] to be a metagame decision on the player's part, not a choice on the character's part... the character can't see the die roll, and the result of the die roll - the thing the character [i]can[/i] observe - [i]hasn't happened yet[/i] when the decision must be made. I see the choice to expend an AoO against a provocation by an invisible opponent as a similar metagame decision by the player, rather than an in-game choice by the PC, since it's based on an event the PC has no knowledge of. -Hyp. [/QUOTE]

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