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[3.5] Is every Magic Change Downward?
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<blockquote data-quote="woodelf" data-source="post: 935841" data-attributes="member: 10201"><p><strong>Re: Magic NEEDED to be reduced.</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Not been my experiences at all. First, you assumed a combat-optimized wizard. 2nd, you gave the wizard haste, and not the fighter. While, obviously, a pure fighter can't haste herself, i still don't think that's a "fair" comparison. Maybe your campaigns are different, but, even when going into combat, i've never had a spellcaster's player be that single-minded about combat. They might prepare (for the time they were going to assault a combat-happy dragon, and knew it) 2/3rds damage spells, tops.</p><p></p><p>3E fighters and barbarians dish out more damage, IME, than 2e combat wizards. Not more than they *could* maybe, but more than they actually did, generally speaking. And 3E wizards do less damage than 2e wizards, IME, because of the change from 20d to 10d for spell damage caps. </p><p></p><p>Anyway, in my D&D3E game (the one i played in), the single fighter usually took out about as much opponent as the druid, monk, combat-oriented cleric, and wizard combined. And when we lost the cleric, he was about twice as effective as the bard, sorcerer, druid, and monk combined.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="woodelf, post: 935841, member: 10201"] [b]Re: Magic NEEDED to be reduced.[/b] Not been my experiences at all. First, you assumed a combat-optimized wizard. 2nd, you gave the wizard haste, and not the fighter. While, obviously, a pure fighter can't haste herself, i still don't think that's a "fair" comparison. Maybe your campaigns are different, but, even when going into combat, i've never had a spellcaster's player be that single-minded about combat. They might prepare (for the time they were going to assault a combat-happy dragon, and knew it) 2/3rds damage spells, tops. 3E fighters and barbarians dish out more damage, IME, than 2e combat wizards. Not more than they *could* maybe, but more than they actually did, generally speaking. And 3E wizards do less damage than 2e wizards, IME, because of the change from 20d to 10d for spell damage caps. Anyway, in my D&D3E game (the one i played in), the single fighter usually took out about as much opponent as the druid, monk, combat-oriented cleric, and wizard combined. And when we lost the cleric, he was about twice as effective as the bard, sorcerer, druid, and monk combined. [/QUOTE]
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