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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Olgar Shiverstone" data-source="post: 3705442" data-attributes="member: 5868">I was a huge fan of the switch to 3.5, as it fixed a number of niggling issues I had with 3.0 (which was itself great).  Now, while I can see a number of things to tweak with 3.5, I don't particularly think the change was necessary now from a system standpoint -- I suspect it's mostly from a WOTC income standpoint.  But I'm not really mad about 4E, per se.  I'll judge it on its own merits when it shows up and as info is released.What has me really steamed is the "We're not working on it, it's a long way off, 3.5 through 2008" ... and then they reveal they've been working on 4E since 2005 in an announcement that comes 6 months after the previous, completely opposite message.  While I expect WOTC to be a greedy, money-grubbing corporation, I think they can be a greedy money-grubbing corporation without lying to our faces.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f621.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":mad:" title="Mad    :mad:"  data-smilie="4"data-shortname=":mad:" /> Edit: Prescient irony: see Ryan Dancey's January 2006 comments on the 4E news page.  He nailed the prediction.  <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/paranoid.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":uhoh:" title="Paranoid    :uhoh:" data-shortname=":uhoh:" /></blockquote>