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Message: <blockquote data-quote="hewligan" data-source="post: 3706004" data-attributes="member: 19688">SHARK et al. - what would make you happy? A game that never changed, a game that only changed every 10 years, a game that changed every 20? I mean, at some point they are going to bring out new revisions of their rules. 3.5 got bloated, and complex, and incredibly daunting to pick-up for a new (or lapsed) player.WoTC is a company, yes, but that does not mean they are evil. Do they want to make money, yes, I am sure they do, but 4 sounds interesting, and it sounds like it addresses some key problems SOME of us have with 3 and 3.5, and it is of course not compulsory to buy it, and I am sure that you will still find players for your games. This is not the same as a company you are getting a service from quietly increasing their fee.The player base for DnD is small. In my mind, the complexity of 3 and 3.5 helped contribute to a reduction in the play-base, but perhaps more worryingly to a refinement of the remaining base into a more hardcore group. There were LOTS Of rules to learn, and people learned them. The barrier to entry grew, while the MMORPG offered an incredibly low barrier to entry, albeit to a cut down experience.DnD needs a new revision that expands the user-base beyond the hardcore. They need to win over players, and, even more importantly, GMs that are not then hit with 1 hours prep for a 1 hour session.4 does not invalidate your previous library of books. 3.5 can live on in your game for as long as you and your players want. 4 may bring in new players, it may help to reinvigorate the hobby a bit. It may fail, of course, but WoTC are at least trying to broaden the appeal, freshen up the product, and offer something more accessible.I can never understand this mentality where people get angry when a company releases a new product. I see it on Apple Mac forums, with people saying "How dare Apple release a new MacBook. I only bought mine last week, and they never mentioned that a new one was coming. Now it is obsolete!". It is not obsolete. It is just as functional as it was when you bought it, and if it could do the job for you yesterday it can probably do the job for you today.</blockquote>

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