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<blockquote data-quote="Gargauth" data-source="post: 3706359" data-attributes="member: 54127"><p>I'm trying to compose a response but there is so much I am responding to, that I can't seem to organize my thoughts. Thus, I'm simply going to list some points I am attempting to make and leave it at that.</p><p></p><p>*My problems are mainly with 3.5, not the release of 4E. If the reasoning for 3.5's release was valid, then it is not time for 4E. If it -is- indeed time for a new edition (leaving money out of the equation) then 3.5 was a failure.</p><p></p><p>*I've never made an issue of the amount of money I spent on 3E (or 1st or 2nd for that matter). I realize that WotC exists primarily to make a profit. I think that is understandable because they are a corporation with employees who depend on them for a salary. I also think its regrettable that D&D is controlled by the market research inevitable in such a corporation. I realize there is no point in even worrying about it, but as I said in an earlier post, the smaller 3rd party gaming publishers out there that are content to break even produce just as good of a product in many cases, if not better. </p><p></p><p>* Posted by Umbran - "Everyone gripes that WotC does it wrong, but nobody's made a clear case of how they can do it right, and still meet their own needs." --- exactly the point, they can't, and that is the connundrum.</p><p></p><p>*I find it both disturbing and telling that many people in the thread, even those who aren't "angry", are already referencing 4.5. When 3E was released, I think many gamers actually thought what WotC said about streamlining the game and making it work seamlessly would ring true. Now, everyone is wondering about 5th edition in the back of their heads.</p><p></p><p>*On a postive note, I will gladly pay the monthly fee if it is 1) reasonable 2)worth the price 3)able to allow WotC to profit without releasing products continually that complicate the game beyond playability so that a new edition is needed. </p><p></p><p>*I fear that more and more the release schedule of Dungeons and Dragons will be inspired by the business cycle of Magic: The Gathering and it's content and design by World of Warcraft.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Gargauth, post: 3706359, member: 54127"] I'm trying to compose a response but there is so much I am responding to, that I can't seem to organize my thoughts. Thus, I'm simply going to list some points I am attempting to make and leave it at that. *My problems are mainly with 3.5, not the release of 4E. If the reasoning for 3.5's release was valid, then it is not time for 4E. If it -is- indeed time for a new edition (leaving money out of the equation) then 3.5 was a failure. *I've never made an issue of the amount of money I spent on 3E (or 1st or 2nd for that matter). I realize that WotC exists primarily to make a profit. I think that is understandable because they are a corporation with employees who depend on them for a salary. I also think its regrettable that D&D is controlled by the market research inevitable in such a corporation. I realize there is no point in even worrying about it, but as I said in an earlier post, the smaller 3rd party gaming publishers out there that are content to break even produce just as good of a product in many cases, if not better. * Posted by Umbran - "Everyone gripes that WotC does it wrong, but nobody's made a clear case of how they can do it right, and still meet their own needs." --- exactly the point, they can't, and that is the connundrum. *I find it both disturbing and telling that many people in the thread, even those who aren't "angry", are already referencing 4.5. When 3E was released, I think many gamers actually thought what WotC said about streamlining the game and making it work seamlessly would ring true. Now, everyone is wondering about 5th edition in the back of their heads. *On a postive note, I will gladly pay the monthly fee if it is 1) reasonable 2)worth the price 3)able to allow WotC to profit without releasing products continually that complicate the game beyond playability so that a new edition is needed. *I fear that more and more the release schedule of Dungeons and Dragons will be inspired by the business cycle of Magic: The Gathering and it's content and design by World of Warcraft. [/QUOTE]
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