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<blockquote data-quote="ShinHakkaider" data-source="post: 3706933" data-attributes="member: 9213"><p>See post 105 as to how I answered pretty much that same question to someone who didnt come at me with a snarky comment right out of the gate. </p><p></p><p>I see a big difference between saying "We're working on a 4th Edition now" and saying "4th Edition is coming in May 2008. We've been working on it for the past two years and it's all done but the playtesting." </p><p></p><p>If you don't think there's a difference, then that's on you. But for me the first would have probably been said at least a year ago and would have forced me to re-evaluate any 3.5 purchases I would have made over that time. The second pretty much says (for now, newer info could invalidate this) that all of your 3.5 material / crunch (of which I have ALOT) is going to be useless with the new version. </p><p></p><p>To go back to the earlier Apple analogy, at least OSX allowed OS 9 apps to run in emulation for a long time before they forced people to purchase OS X native apps. Right now it seems like 3.5 material / crunch might be incompatible with 4.0. If that we'rent the case then it would have been touted as a feature of 4.0 right off the bat. Once again going with the software revs that WOTC seems to be following (3.0, 3.5, 4.0), when the PS3, XBox 360 and the Wii were announced, one of the first things that was mentioned was that they were backward compatible with the older games. Granted, it took a while for Sony to get that part right, but it was touted as a feature. There's no such mention of that in 4.0 announcement. </p><p></p><p>All I'm saying is this: if counsole manufactures, which are without a doubt more competative and bigger buisness than RPG's can let thier fan base know that yeah, the PS3 is in development a few years before announcing the actual release date of the counsole, there's no reason why WOTC couldnt just come out and say that "yeah, we're working on 4th. It wont be out for a while, but we'll let you know more when we're ready to announce. We've been listening to your problems with 3.5 and we're working to make the game more streamlined and easier to play. If you want an idea of where the game is headed look no further than SW Saga Edition/Tome of Battle..." Whatever. You get the idea. </p><p></p><p>That's how I see it. I know that you see it differently and that's fine. Hell, I may actually be dead frakkin' WRONG, but it doesn't mean that my POV is automatically worthy of derision.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ShinHakkaider, post: 3706933, member: 9213"] See post 105 as to how I answered pretty much that same question to someone who didnt come at me with a snarky comment right out of the gate. I see a big difference between saying "We're working on a 4th Edition now" and saying "4th Edition is coming in May 2008. We've been working on it for the past two years and it's all done but the playtesting." If you don't think there's a difference, then that's on you. But for me the first would have probably been said at least a year ago and would have forced me to re-evaluate any 3.5 purchases I would have made over that time. The second pretty much says (for now, newer info could invalidate this) that all of your 3.5 material / crunch (of which I have ALOT) is going to be useless with the new version. To go back to the earlier Apple analogy, at least OSX allowed OS 9 apps to run in emulation for a long time before they forced people to purchase OS X native apps. Right now it seems like 3.5 material / crunch might be incompatible with 4.0. If that we'rent the case then it would have been touted as a feature of 4.0 right off the bat. Once again going with the software revs that WOTC seems to be following (3.0, 3.5, 4.0), when the PS3, XBox 360 and the Wii were announced, one of the first things that was mentioned was that they were backward compatible with the older games. Granted, it took a while for Sony to get that part right, but it was touted as a feature. There's no such mention of that in 4.0 announcement. All I'm saying is this: if counsole manufactures, which are without a doubt more competative and bigger buisness than RPG's can let thier fan base know that yeah, the PS3 is in development a few years before announcing the actual release date of the counsole, there's no reason why WOTC couldnt just come out and say that "yeah, we're working on 4th. It wont be out for a while, but we'll let you know more when we're ready to announce. We've been listening to your problems with 3.5 and we're working to make the game more streamlined and easier to play. If you want an idea of where the game is headed look no further than SW Saga Edition/Tome of Battle..." Whatever. You get the idea. That's how I see it. I know that you see it differently and that's fine. Hell, I may actually be dead frakkin' WRONG, but it doesn't mean that my POV is automatically worthy of derision. [/QUOTE]
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