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<blockquote data-quote="wingsandsword" data-source="post: 3709156" data-attributes="member: 14159">The question is, why would it be a revival like that?Why was 3e such a revival?So many people had drifted away from D&amp;D over the years, AD&amp;D 2e was showing it's age big time, there was so much &quot;legacy code&quot; of old out-of-print supplements that not many people had that new books were still referencing (like Battlesystem).&nbsp; AD&amp;D 2e was playable, but it was clear that to remain commercially viable a new edition needed to be made to give the game a fresh start and a reboot.&nbsp; D&amp;D's roots as a 1970's wargame were pretty clear when stacked up against other RPG's on the market in the late 1990's, and that made it pretty hard to compete.White Wolf had taken the gaming world by storm with the WoD and TSR had cheesed off so many D&amp;D players with their bad attitude (not to mention the oft cited market fractioning of myriad settings) that D&amp;D was in bad shape.&nbsp; A revival of some kind was really needed.What about now?&nbsp; Where was the clamor for 4e beforehand?&nbsp; Was 3.5 clearly behind the times?&nbsp; Were new books coming out regularly referencing stuff that was long out of print and wasn't too popular to begin with?&nbsp; Where are the competing tabletop RPG's giving WotC a serious run for their money and cutting deep into profits?&nbsp; Where are the droves of people driven away from D&amp;D who need a fresh start to bring them back?&nbsp; I'm not seeing the sort of market conditions and history that lead up to the revival that 3e brought in the cards for 4e.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="wingsandsword, post: 3709156, member: 14159"] The question is, why would it be a revival like that? Why was 3e such a revival? So many people had drifted away from D&D over the years, AD&D 2e was showing it's age big time, there was so much "legacy code" of old out-of-print supplements that not many people had that new books were still referencing (like Battlesystem). AD&D 2e was playable, but it was clear that to remain commercially viable a new edition needed to be made to give the game a fresh start and a reboot. D&D's roots as a 1970's wargame were pretty clear when stacked up against other RPG's on the market in the late 1990's, and that made it pretty hard to compete. White Wolf had taken the gaming world by storm with the WoD and TSR had cheesed off so many D&D players with their bad attitude (not to mention the oft cited market fractioning of myriad settings) that D&D was in bad shape. A revival of some kind was really needed. What about now? Where was the clamor for 4e beforehand? Was 3.5 clearly behind the times? Were new books coming out regularly referencing stuff that was long out of print and wasn't too popular to begin with? Where are the competing tabletop RPG's giving WotC a serious run for their money and cutting deep into profits? Where are the droves of people driven away from D&D who need a fresh start to bring them back? I'm not seeing the sort of market conditions and history that lead up to the revival that 3e brought in the cards for 4e. [/QUOTE]

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