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<blockquote data-quote="Altalazar" data-source="post: 3712890" data-attributes="member: 939"><p>When 3.5 came out, I was on hiatus due to law school, but even if I had not been, I think that 3.5, in the end, was a good thing. Looking at my shelf full of 3.5 stuff and looking at my shelf of 3.0 stuff - which basically is the three core rulebooks and the thin class books, it is apparent that almost all of the 3.x material is 3.5 material, not 3.0. I think 3.5 fixed a lot of things that needed fixing. Better they fix it sooner, I thought, then later - the later they did it, the more 3.0 books there would have been to replace. </p><p></p><p>So I'm not angry about 3.5. I'm still a bit shell-shocked that 4.0 came out so soon. I think I was mentally prepared for it to come out in 2009, based on what Wizards had been saying. That makes the 2008 dates feel more like an ambush. </p><p></p><p>I don't feel like I'd be wasting money to buy the remaining 3.5 books. I like that they are putting out a rules compendium - in a way, that is the one book that I'm glad is coming out when 4E is on the way - that way I know that the 3.5 Rules Compendium really will be the last word on the rules and there will be no further additions to 3.5. It is a capstone. And aside from a few adventures and elder evils, there really isn't too much 3.5 specific stuff coming out between now and the end of the year anyway. </p><p></p><p>I've probably spent as much on minis now as books, and I really like the minis for roleplaying (I"d never play the mini game). I like having a large selection of monsters to match whatever PCs may encounter, as a player or as a DM. And those will be fully compatible with 4E, so in that sense, half of the money I've spent on D&D carries forward to 4.0. </p><p></p><p>I am a bit bummed to think of everything on my shelf being "obsolete" and of the thought of yet another conversion, one completely different, but I also am curious what they've done with the system. And it hit me that the amount of 3.5 material I have could last me many lifetimes, given my play frequency (which is once a week, sometimes twice a week, for 4-5 hours at a time). So anyone with all of the 3.5 books, like me, could play 3.5 til the end of life and never run out of material. So there's no reason to be bummed out about a new edition. If anything, if you really don't want to do 4E, then you can consolidate all of your 3.5 stuff and master it, knowing that it will never be increased in size from Dec 2007 onward. </p><p></p><p>So I am very curious to know what 4E holds. I don't know when I'll play it, but I probably will eventually. I don't know if I'll get all of the books, but I'll at least get the core (and probably the rest, given that I'm a book whore who buys all wizards books generally). </p><p></p><p>The one thing that gives me pause is the notion of 4.5E - I hope they don't do that this time around - they have had their experience with 3.0, 3.5, and now two to three years of playtesting 4E, so they should not need to do that this time around.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Altalazar, post: 3712890, member: 939"] When 3.5 came out, I was on hiatus due to law school, but even if I had not been, I think that 3.5, in the end, was a good thing. Looking at my shelf full of 3.5 stuff and looking at my shelf of 3.0 stuff - which basically is the three core rulebooks and the thin class books, it is apparent that almost all of the 3.x material is 3.5 material, not 3.0. I think 3.5 fixed a lot of things that needed fixing. Better they fix it sooner, I thought, then later - the later they did it, the more 3.0 books there would have been to replace. So I'm not angry about 3.5. I'm still a bit shell-shocked that 4.0 came out so soon. I think I was mentally prepared for it to come out in 2009, based on what Wizards had been saying. That makes the 2008 dates feel more like an ambush. I don't feel like I'd be wasting money to buy the remaining 3.5 books. I like that they are putting out a rules compendium - in a way, that is the one book that I'm glad is coming out when 4E is on the way - that way I know that the 3.5 Rules Compendium really will be the last word on the rules and there will be no further additions to 3.5. It is a capstone. And aside from a few adventures and elder evils, there really isn't too much 3.5 specific stuff coming out between now and the end of the year anyway. I've probably spent as much on minis now as books, and I really like the minis for roleplaying (I"d never play the mini game). I like having a large selection of monsters to match whatever PCs may encounter, as a player or as a DM. And those will be fully compatible with 4E, so in that sense, half of the money I've spent on D&D carries forward to 4.0. I am a bit bummed to think of everything on my shelf being "obsolete" and of the thought of yet another conversion, one completely different, but I also am curious what they've done with the system. And it hit me that the amount of 3.5 material I have could last me many lifetimes, given my play frequency (which is once a week, sometimes twice a week, for 4-5 hours at a time). So anyone with all of the 3.5 books, like me, could play 3.5 til the end of life and never run out of material. So there's no reason to be bummed out about a new edition. If anything, if you really don't want to do 4E, then you can consolidate all of your 3.5 stuff and master it, knowing that it will never be increased in size from Dec 2007 onward. So I am very curious to know what 4E holds. I don't know when I'll play it, but I probably will eventually. I don't know if I'll get all of the books, but I'll at least get the core (and probably the rest, given that I'm a book whore who buys all wizards books generally). The one thing that gives me pause is the notion of 4.5E - I hope they don't do that this time around - they have had their experience with 3.0, 3.5, and now two to three years of playtesting 4E, so they should not need to do that this time around. [/QUOTE]
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