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<blockquote data-quote="Vegepygmy" data-source="post: 5611224" data-attributes="member: 40109">For the same reason there &quot;aren't any&quot; elite-bred rust monsters or umber hulks: &quot;Except where noted otherwise, each creature [in the Monster Manual] is assumed to have the standard array of ability scores before racial adjustments (all 11s and 10s).&quot; MM page 6-7.&nbsp;You certainly could have elite-bred horses and riding dogs in your campaign; you just have to stat them up yourself.&nbsp;You could go with the nonelite array first (13, 12, 11, 10, 9, 8) and the elite array for really, really amazing animals. Or you might just give a +2 or +4 bonus to each physical stat (or maybe just Str and Con). Your other ideas aren't bad, either.&nbsp;IMO, that would be way, way too cheap for such magnificent creatures. Consider that a masterwork longsword costs 2,100% as much as a normal longsword, and all that gives you is a measly +1 on attack rolls.&nbsp;I'd set the price for an &quot;elite&quot; horse at no less than 1,000% the cost of an ordinary mount, and probably even higher, to be honest. Such animals would be so highly prized, I think, that only the richest of the rich could afford them.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Vegepygmy, post: 5611224, member: 40109"] For the same reason there "aren't any" elite-bred rust monsters or umber hulks: "Except where noted otherwise, each creature [in the [I]Monster Manual[/I]] is assumed to have the standard array of ability scores before racial adjustments (all 11s and 10s)." [U]MM page 6-7[/U]. You certainly [I]could[/I] have elite-bred horses and riding dogs in your campaign; you just have to stat them up yourself. You could go with the nonelite array first (13, 12, 11, 10, 9, 8) and the elite array for really, really amazing animals. Or you might just give a +2 or +4 bonus to each physical stat (or maybe just Str and Con). Your other ideas aren't bad, either. IMO, that would be way, way too cheap for such magnificent creatures. Consider that a masterwork longsword costs 2,100% as much as a normal longsword, and all that gives you is a measly +1 on attack rolls. I'd set the price for an "elite" horse at no less than 1,000% the cost of an ordinary mount, and probably even higher, to be honest. Such animals would be so highly prized, I think, that only the richest of the rich could afford them. [/QUOTE]

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