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<blockquote data-quote="Reynard" data-source="post: 3958787" data-attributes="member: 467"><p>The idea that its free so it is okay if it is late, or not particularly useful or little more than marketting hyperbole isn't the point. The point is that WotC has 3 kinds of current customers to concern themselves with: those that are definitely going 4e, those that definitely aren't, and those that aren't certain. Of those, the last one is the only type that really counts -- the 4e folks are in the bag and the non-4e folks are already out the door. Those that aren't sure, but are still having a good old time playing 3.0 or 3.5 are worth the resources, I think. Adventures are one way to do that, sure, but if the last couple years has shown us anything it is that crunch sells. WotC has a huge reservoir of crunch, much of which is inspiring parts of 4e or being ported directly over. Getting existing players using and loving that crunch, as well as keeping them excited about D&D and thinking of Wizards first -- whether through print products or e-Dragon -- will have tangible benefits come the 4e launch. Instead, it seems like there's a lot of lip service, a lot of "3E sucks and 4e will rock, but keep playing 3E for now. Pretty please?!"</p><p></p><p>Now, I could be wrong about how important the fence sitters are -- how many there are and how much WotC thinks they need them based on projected new players.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Reynard, post: 3958787, member: 467"] The idea that its free so it is okay if it is late, or not particularly useful or little more than marketting hyperbole isn't the point. The point is that WotC has 3 kinds of current customers to concern themselves with: those that are definitely going 4e, those that definitely aren't, and those that aren't certain. Of those, the last one is the only type that really counts -- the 4e folks are in the bag and the non-4e folks are already out the door. Those that aren't sure, but are still having a good old time playing 3.0 or 3.5 are worth the resources, I think. Adventures are one way to do that, sure, but if the last couple years has shown us anything it is that crunch sells. WotC has a huge reservoir of crunch, much of which is inspiring parts of 4e or being ported directly over. Getting existing players using and loving that crunch, as well as keeping them excited about D&D and thinking of Wizards first -- whether through print products or e-Dragon -- will have tangible benefits come the 4e launch. Instead, it seems like there's a lot of lip service, a lot of "3E sucks and 4e will rock, but keep playing 3E for now. Pretty please?!" Now, I could be wrong about how important the fence sitters are -- how many there are and how much WotC thinks they need them based on projected new players. [/QUOTE]
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