Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Million Dollar TTRPG Crowdfunders
Most Anticipated Tabletop RPGs Of The Year
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
ShortQuests -- individual adventure modules! An all-new collection of digest-sized D&D adventures designed to plug in to your game.
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
[3.5] Perform -- Does it annoy you as well?
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Lichtenhart" data-source="post: 1025974" data-attributes="member: 761"><p>Lord Pendragon and Fenes already said most of what I wanted to say about the new perform better than I could.</p><p></p><p>There are people who love simple rules. People that things that Perform working as Craft or Knowledge adds something to their game, because it 'should' be so. I don't think the scholar who spent ages researching info about obscure alien beings, and the armorer locked in his forge night and day to fix the Realm's soldiers' armors would say that the other one put the same effort honing his skills than he did. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>There are people that think 3e perform was unrealistic because they think it's not fair to instantly become a 'master' of an instrument. Instantly? How do a bard gets the skill points to become 'instantly' a master of an instruments? He gets them by staying there and singing in the face of the dragon, when all people in their good mind whould have stayed miles away. In real life it takes a lot of effort and pain to master an instrument. In the game it takes a lot of effort and pain to level up. Do your characters need some more effort and pain? Then why don't you show me the pain a ranger endure getting accustomed to the jungle and the tundra alike? Why don't you show me the effort a sorcerer put in identifying the same spell cast by the somber prayers of a cleric and the swirling dance of a bard? Why don't you show me the pain the young dwarven squire endured trying not to chop his own head off with his urgrosh while clinging to his last bow lesson?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lichtenhart, post: 1025974, member: 761"] Lord Pendragon and Fenes already said most of what I wanted to say about the new perform better than I could. There are people who love simple rules. People that things that Perform working as Craft or Knowledge adds something to their game, because it 'should' be so. I don't think the scholar who spent ages researching info about obscure alien beings, and the armorer locked in his forge night and day to fix the Realm's soldiers' armors would say that the other one put the same effort honing his skills than he did. :) There are people that think 3e perform was unrealistic because they think it's not fair to instantly become a 'master' of an instrument. Instantly? How do a bard gets the skill points to become 'instantly' a master of an instruments? He gets them by staying there and singing in the face of the dragon, when all people in their good mind whould have stayed miles away. In real life it takes a lot of effort and pain to master an instrument. In the game it takes a lot of effort and pain to level up. Do your characters need some more effort and pain? Then why don't you show me the pain a ranger endure getting accustomed to the jungle and the tundra alike? Why don't you show me the effort a sorcerer put in identifying the same spell cast by the somber prayers of a cleric and the swirling dance of a bard? Why don't you show me the pain the young dwarven squire endured trying not to chop his own head off with his urgrosh while clinging to his last bow lesson? [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
[3.5] Perform -- Does it annoy you as well?
Top