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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DracoSuave" data-source="post: 5713661" data-attributes="member: 71571">Hello, and welcome to the ENWorld forums.The reason you'll find a large measure of hostility towards "other edition stuff' on this forum is because any time someone sneaks into that territory, it always ends up turning into an edition-war, which derails the original topic.  As a result, there's a generally accepted moritorium on such things in this forum.   There is <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/pathfinder-rpg-discussion/" target="_blank">forum space to discuss Pathfinder</a> on EnWorld, and I am certain your properly placed input and comments will be valued by the friendly community here.As for the OP's question.4th Edition has an eye towards an established role, and classes are designed towards that role.  Team play is emphasised over self-reliance, so some manner of specialization will occur.  Bard is one of the more 'jack-of-all-tradesy' characters, but even then they're still very focused buff-slingers, in contrast to their older, less focused incarnations.Further, 'skillmonkey' isn't a combat role, it's something all characters take to varying degrees.  One character class I like for self-reliance is the avenger.  Decent skill options, and a potentially stealth-based heavy weapons guy is a different take on the idea.  You'll have heavy armor defenses without being in heavy armor, and you'll be going toe-to-toe in single combat as your speciality, which may work for you as well.</blockquote>

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