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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mike Sullivan" data-source="post: 955252" data-attributes="member: 9824">I don't know that I agree that mowing down zombie hordes is a gaming staple.  It's a staple of a particular horror genre, sure.  And I think that Large or Huge zombies are a particularly dubious "generic challenge"  -- and PA is much less useful against the medium sized ones in the scenario you proposed.I also am unconvinced by the "mildly useful in a broad number of situations" argument.  In general, I see it as useful for a big-weapon fighter in three scenarios:1.  When you are fighting fairly small bands of AC and hit point opponents at level 5 and below (before you get iterative attacks).2.  Briefly in the level 6-10 range when you're charging or otherwise denied your iterative attacks.3.  When all of your attacks for a given round hit on a 2+, and only when you aren't affecting your odds to hit at all.I think that number 1 is fairly common for a brief level range.  Numbers 2 and 3 will come up fairly frequently, but they're turning a rotten situation into a mildly less rotten situation -- increasing your damage from 35 expected per round to 40 expected per round, when your full-attack damage is 65 expected per round, just means you're killing time until you get to full attack.That said, I think we can agree on one thing:Clearly, 3.0 PA is at its most useless when we're talking about the archetypical greatsword fighter.  Sword-and-boarders benefit more from it, and it's huge for a TWFer.The change, then, is meant to equalize its utility for everyone -- centering around the sword-and-boarders.  Thus, they're making it less useful for the TWFers, and more useful for two-handed guys.They're making a seperate series of changes to make TWF more competetive (GWS, removing Ambidexterity, and ITWF and GTWF), as it was otherwise by-and-large the weakest style.  I think that the goal here -- and, despite what people want to claim, there's no evidence that they've fallen short on this goal -- is to make the three different melee styles be an interesting and tough choice.</blockquote>

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