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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dimwhit" data-source="post: 956935" data-attributes="member: 2576"><p>With all due respect, I couldn't agree with you less. And that's exactly the problem with 3.5. The min/max folk find as many rules as they can to abuse, not just one, and use them to create nasty powerful characters. But many of us take occassional use of one of those rules (like an hour/level buff spell, for example) to help shape their character. They're being affected unfairly (and for no reason) while running a legit and fair charcter, all in an attemp to shut down the min/max characters. That's the fundamental problem with the revision. Rules should not be changed so that you can't min/max. Rules should be made and shaped with the standard players in mind.</p></blockquote><p></p>