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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mike Sullivan" data-source="post: 960383" data-attributes="member: 9824">One:  Aren't we reaching just a little bit in terms of why to hate the new PA?Two:  His alternate plan was to start playing a whole new character.  If his GM is inexplicably enough of a jerk to force him to a 3.5 ruleset without allowing him to reset his feats in the face of massive differences to those feats, then he could always drop his twin warfans character and create a new twin warfans character who had the appropriate feats.Three:  I don't care what Lotus does with his character.  Giving him the benefit of the doubt, I assumed that he was using his situation to illustrate the general case, not that he particularly wanted my or anyone else's advice about what to do with his specific character.Well, I did a PA vs. DR comparison for a 3.0 Greatsword fighter earlier in this thread -- you might want to check it out.But for lower-base-damage double-shortsword wielders, PA would be more useful, yes.If this seriously worries you, and you don't mind looking like a silly Darth Maul wannabe, then I can only suggest the two-bladed sword option.Check it out:Total number of necessary feats:Exotic WP: Two bladed swordWF: Two bladed swordWS: Two bladed swordTWFITWFGWF: Two bladed swordGTWFGWS: Two bladed swordPower Attack= 9 feats at 12th level, leaving you two more (cleave and great cleave) if you're non-human, or three more if you're human (cleave, great cleave, and two weapon defense?).Benefits:Six attacks per round at 12th level, all of them with the +2 to hit, +4 to damage of GWF and GWS, on a full attack, each doing d8 damage.On a partial attack, or object attacking attack, or whatever, a two-handed strike with Power Attack at the favorable rate -- only 2.5 points of damage less, on average, than a Greatsword attack.Your partial attack damage will be consistantly only about three points lower than a greatsword wielder.  Your full attack damage will be consistantly higher than a greatsword wielder, assuming you have enough money to enchant both sides of your sword.  If you get the two weapon defense thing (assuming that it works with double weapons), your AC will be higher.</blockquote>

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